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	at last some concrete information!!!! (0.50 / 2) (#3)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:26:47 AM PST

	thank you for this list of advices!!! i shall surrender myself to the police right away

	r0lf (none / 0) (#4398)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 17th, 2001 at 06:04:20 AM PST

	dat`s c00l :>

	i am guilty (none / 0) (#6095)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jan 12th, 2002 at 02:12:28 PM PST

	how could i have been so blind...i have been putting firewall after firewall on my system. when along along i have tryyng to keep myself out... yes now that i have read your article i realize that i am a hacker...I have reviewed my computer and discovered filthy programs running amuck everywhere...Flash. MP3's. DOS. BIOS. and the holy grail of hacking, yes its true I HAVE LINUX, i am so sorry and at this moment the police are on their way to put me away...THANK YOU for opening my unworthy eyes

	Linux based on what? (none / 0) (#35)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 03:48:08 PM PST

	It is based on a program called "xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. In the late 1970's Microsoft licensed UNIX source code from AT&T which at the time was not licensing the name UNIX. Therefore Microsoft created the name Xenix. Microsoft did not sell Xenix to end-users but instead licensed the software to software OEMs such as Intel, Tandy, Altos and SCO who then provided a finished version of their own Xenix to the end-users or other customers. SCO introduced its first version of Xenix named SCO Xenix System V for the Intel 8086 and 8088 in 1983. Today SCO Xenix is one of the more commonly used and found versions of Xenix. Linux was based on Minix. A UnixLite OS designed to run on PCs. However, it was really only a teaching tool. Andrew Tanenbaum repeatedly refused to add the new (legitimate) features the users and even developers asked for. Linus Torvalds set out simply to add functionality to his own version of Minix (the copyright allows use to do so for your own personal use, but you cannot sell or distibute it). Over time, in adding functionality to Minix, Linus Torvalds found that he had created an entirely new kernel. I was very similar to Minix but used none of the Minix source code. Torvalds had originally called it freax, for "`free' + `freak' + the obligatory `-x'. The operator of the FTP server where Linus' new kernel made its debut didn't like the name and simply called it Linux (Linus + Unix). People seemed to like the name so it stuck.

	Bwahaha (none / 0) (#1001)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Dec 4th, 2001 at 12:14:39 PM PST

	The article was very funny, but the comments are the best. Honestly I almost wet my pants with all the 'l33t sl4shd0ttaz' coming to 'the rescue'. Honestly, where is peoples sense of humour these days! Wit, folks. Remember you are just as dumb as our imaginary 'caring parent' if you leaped in with your critical posts. Beautiful writing, the links were brilliant, and thanks, you dumb slashdotters for confirming your complete lack of sense, understanding, humour and brains. Brilliant. Hook, Line and Sinker.

	oh my goodness (none / 0) (#2418)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 9th, 2001 at 05:21:54 PM PST

	This is serious? You mean this isn't a prank site or something? Hahahahha!!

	You sir are an idiot. (0.50 / 2) (#38)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 03:51:19 PM PST

	If you even knew a single thing you were talking about then you would realize how completely and uttlerly false this article is. For all parents reading this, don't believe it. Its all from an opinionated person who doesn't even know that AMD is a American Company. Ignorance is bliss, but horror to those informed.

	Idiot... that's an understatement (none / 0) (#514)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 04:08:41 PM PST

	the man is a frickin dumb ass who obviously have no idea what the hell he is talking about.

	undersatement indeed... (none / 0) (#6085)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jan 12th, 2002 at 01:25:43 PM PST

	you guys are all idiots for believing, even for a second, that this article is serious. It's intended to offend morons like you and laugh at your silly, insulted, posts.

	are you insane? (0.50 / 2) (#41)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 03:57:41 PM PST

	since when was every bean head that listened to techno music and played with glowsticks a hacker? I hope you all realize how misinformed you are and might actually take time to research your assumptions before crucifying your child for the good of the moral majority. People like you make me sick.

	Yeah I have a hard time believing this is real... (none / 0) (#6024)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jan 12th, 2002 at 01:32:37 AM PST

	I truely thought ignorance to this degree only existed in bad comedy movies. This is just sad. Glow sticks, pacifiers, and bright clothing are stereotypical apparel for Candy Ravers, not hackers. Most hackers don't take enough time to dress fashionably.

	You know, I thought i'd seen it all... (0.00 / 1) (#43)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 04:05:02 PM PST

	You know, all I really need to look at is the very first phrase: "As an enlightened, modern parent..." I mean really, I haven't had this much of a laugh in ages. And that's not even counting the rest of the article. I am VERY curious about three things: 1: What's your source material for showing that Linus Torvalds was a Soviet Hacker, that Mandrake is a 'hacking program', and that Snow Crash is a 'manual'? Furthermore, I'd like to see where you got the hilarious notion that AMD isn't a legitimate company. You cannot MAKE PROCESSORS in third world sweatshops when the premium for quality is beyond levels of microns. 2: What EXACTLY did you accuse your son of doing, and what EXACTLY are your definitions of 'hacking'? 3: Have you ever considered the notion that your son's 'argumentative and surly behavior' are the products of your utterly amusing ignorance? But then, I guess your 'computer hacker' son doesn't find it all that funny. ... "As an enlightened, modern parent..." snerk

	You don't get out much, do you? (-) (5.00 / 1) (#54)
	by tkatchev on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 04:35:33 PM PST

	nt -- Peace and much love...

	what the hell is the world coming to? (none / 0) (#1860)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Dec 7th, 2001 at 07:49:58 AM PST

	I haven't had time to read all the posts, but with regards to the main article... ....I just can't work out if this is supposed to be a joke! I was inclined to laugh when I started reading, but then I thought 'what if this guy is for real, I can't believe there are still such narrow minded and fuck-witted idiots walking the Earth!' I am not a hacker, in fact I only know the basics required to use a computer at work, but even I know that everything thin moron has said is complete crap. Just where did he gain this extensive knowledge of hacking in those few days? More to the point, if this a genuine article, I feel really sorry for his kids!

	I think I may be hacker (0.00 / 1) (#58)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 04:47:54 PM PST

	Help me. I listen to burnt CD's with stolen MP3s I got from KaZaA. And I use Tribes2 as a meeting place to "chat" with my hacker gang. @home IS my ISP so maybe I should change it to the better and faster AOL. I dont know any more. I think I will kill myself if my parents found out. Pleas. help me. I dont have many friends in the real world becaus they dont like the fact I told them I would hack the schools computers to change their notes. but. they are goodie goodies. and dont want me too. Plz. help me.

	Oh my. (none / 0) (#60)
	by Huggles on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 04:51:40 PM PST

	Be careful of that last anonymous poster folks. I think he may be one of the many hackers I know from Tribes 2 virtual reality. If you reply to any of his messages, he will be able to hack your computer using a virus he developed. Trust me, as someone who has admitted to herself that she has a problem.

	LMAO (none / 0) (#742)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 11:12:28 PM PST

	OMFG ROFL!!!!!!!!!!

	Umm, didn't you reply (none / 0) (#2305)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 9th, 2001 at 08:49:03 AM PST

	If you reply to his messages and you can get a virus from them, then didn't you just get a virus? If you arn't a hacker then you don't have the skillz to remove the virus. Either you are an idioit or a hacker. Snicker -Minuo

	Some consolation (none / 0) (#2881)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 10th, 2001 at 09:05:28 PM PST

	Dont worry too much my friend...apparentlly, we're all hackers...each one of us...pats the other on the back we'll overcome it...if only the good moral filled parents can save us in time, before we're all lost...

	Wow... (0.00 / 1) (#63)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 04:59:37 PM PST

	I have read several of these poorly informed articles where parents "do their research" and find that their kids are naughty and "hacking" but this by far is the most ignorant one I have seen. I was only able to read the intro and some of the headlines before I couldn't cease laughing...wow...adults these days seem to have too much time and not enough to do with it. Either take that time and do more research before you ban your son from his computer (which could possibly pay for your retirement buddy..) or just leave him alone and let him make his mistakes and realize his "evil ways" (hah..) on his own. Besides the fact of which that I would place good money that all the kid was do was either NOTHING or barely anything for just knowledge's sake and maybe when he "lied about it for hours" it was simply because he believe he was correct. If someone finds some more horribly researched articles by some "parents" with nothing better to do..please..drop me a link to it CyNiC@CyNiC.ws or e-mail me to respond since I do feel I will never be checking back to this site again (1st and last time right here) after they allowed such a poor article. Over and Out, One of those bad teen "hackers" (no..h4x0rz..i si l33t) that scare you big old parent guys with your really good research and detective abilities.

	This must be ignorance at it's best (0.00 / 1) (#67)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:07:43 PM PST

	After reading that article, I couldn't help but laugh... I've seen alot of ignorance in my life, but this one ranks among the top. While we are on the topic of "protecting" your family, you should cancel all TV services, because "underground" or "negative" influences could come from there. Next, get rid of your mailbox. There is always the possibility that pornographic material could be mailed to you. You wouldn't want anyone to be exposed to that, would you? Third, better cancel your telephone service, because telemarketers could end up giving your children experience to things that you may not want them to experience at the present stage of their lives. Next, cover all electrical outlets in your house. You never know, your children might not be smart enough to not stick a paperclip in the outlets (or maybe you should just remove all small metal objects from your house)? Don't forget to keep the garage door opener (if you have one) out of their reach! They might decide that it is fun to open and close it while they stand underneath it! This is a good approximation of the intelligence of the person who wrote that article up above.. happy flaming!

	reply (0.00 / 1) (#68)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:08:17 PM PST

	hmmm...... I think #9 got me the most.. Made my stomach rumble.... If you are trying to stereotype, you have correctly labeled a candy raver, not a hacker.. Dont always believe the film industry. Parents dont believe any of this idiocracy. In my opinion, it was "hacker" who wrote this, just to make people laugh at it. I havent laughed so hard in a very long time. You do realize that this world wouldnt operate without Linux right? You do realize that the whole internet, the servers/routers etc.. are using linux as its main operating system. What about google.com Thats linux. Do some research.. Linux allows the user to do anything imaginable unlike ms, yes it may be used for hacking, but so can windows. Especially read up on XP, "the hackers tool for tomorrow" You are horrible at categorizing, and the funny thing is, you didnt even mention if your 12-16 year old wants a laptop.. thats a sign. Anyways... good humor, but horribly rough facts.

	Google is evil! (none / 0) (#354)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 02:20:14 AM PST

	You do realize that the whole internet, the servers/routers etc.. are using linux as its main operating system. What about google.com Thats linux. But... but... but... Google is that search engine that hackers use to search for the anarchist's cookbook! And the Internet is that thing that hackers use to connect to other computers and break their hard drives and steel all their files!!! Ban the Internet! `I hate ignorance. I'm pretty sure the whole article was an attempt at trolling this poor website.`

	If your mood is down... (none / 0) (#1030)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Dec 4th, 2001 at 02:40:07 PM PST

	I didn't read the entire page yet... it's becoming HUGE! :) But man... this shit is _funny_! This page will definately go in my bookmark folder - it's simply hillarious! Thank you all ;)

	Hacking (0.00 / 1) (#73)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:16:41 PM PST

	Excuse me. This is the most hilarious article i ever read. You guys have to be joking. Who ever believes this must be living in a delusional world. Please do the world a favor and end your life now if you believe this junk. -DocturDread

	um...please get educated. (0.50 / 2) (#75)
	by rizzah00 on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:18:07 PM PST

	Okay, 1) you shouldnt be sitting in front of a computer 2) go get educated here

	You Are A Nut !!! (0.00 / 1) (#78)
	by d0lemite on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:20:00 PM PST

	I am very glad that someone posted the link to the article "Is Your Son A Hacker?". Now I know where to come if I want a good laugh. None of the things you are talking about make sense. For example, "Lunix" is actually Linux and can be found here http://www.linux.org. You also said that AMD chips are not sold in stores which is very untrue since I bought my AMD chip at a local computer store and that they are athird-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips is so full of it. All I am trying to say is that you should dig up the facts instead of getting the info in LA LA land before you post this for millions or so people to read and get the wrong idea.

	This can't be for real (0.00 / 1) (#82)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:31:03 PM PST

	Please tell me you're not this dumb sir. Your son uses comet cursor to hack people, he plays quake so he can learn to shoot people? Please, just tell me you're not that dumb.

	AMEN (none / 0) (#3538)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 12th, 2001 at 07:21:28 PM PST

	some nice shit down there...play quake to sh00t people...god...play half life or counter strike..atleast they use fuckin real wepons...hahaha AMD is the second largest CPU manufacturer in the world and the best there is out there...please tell me parents aint that dumb...cause I'll never be a parent then...too 1337 f0r j00 <-- l33t \|-\|3><0r watch out for that one LMFAO

	Where can you even start.. (none / 0) (#87)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:38:14 PM PST

	Most bases have been covered by everyone else thus far. The only base I see left, is the fact that your ignorance is bieng interlaced into your children. You believe in god, you believe in the bible. Yadda, yadda ya. I'm sick of hearing about fucking church finantics torturing thier children "in thier best interest". If you were looking out for your childrens best interest, you would allow them to experience the world, and trust thier judegement. Think about when your oldest child is old enough to move out on his own, and hasn't ever had any experience in real life because you've had him strapped down all of his life. Its nice to worry about thier well bieng, but if you're that scared of this world, why the FUCK did you bring them into it? I would have a ton more to say, but frankly you're just not worth the effort. You're a pitifully ignorant individual who should seek immediate help. And you call yourself a "model parent" ? Please, I'm sure your kids would be more happy in a psych-ward.

	Incorrect Link in the Above Article (none / 0) (#89)
	by egg troll on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:38:55 PM PST

	I do not mean to find fault with the article. It was extremely informative and the writer did almost as good a job as I might have done. Unfortunately in section 5, the link for "breaking the law" is the incorrect one. Please visit either of these two for a better description of breaking the law. Posting for the love of the baby Jesus....

	informative? (none / 0) (#181)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:27:02 PM PST

	That article was sooo filled with misinformation it is ludicrous. I bet none of you uneducated individuals work in the IT field. You have just proven your ignorance to the world. I could go on but my mother taught me that its not fair to have a battle of wits with unarmed opponents.

	lighten up (none / 0) (#3606)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 12th, 2001 at 10:34:38 PM PST

	lighten up, moron. the article is a joke, and the response you just attacked was a joke. look at the links, it's references to Judas Preist for fuck's sake! The whole thing is comedy! Open your heads up with shovels and clean out the shit people, this is COMEDY. Ship of fools here... ship of fools...

	Clarification... (none / 0) (#4485)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 17th, 2001 at 09:15:23 PM PST

	Psst... You may want to tell these people IT is an abbreviation for the Information Technology field. You may confuse them with abbreviations that they will assume are hacker terminology or sign of satan himself.

	bzzzzzzz (none / 0) (#6404)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 05:13:36 AM PST

	pleeezeeee donnut conf-use th00z p00r pplz more even! rather is IT a acronym then a abbrev. an h4xx3r is known to misuse acronyms, such ass "GNU is Never Useful", op-posed too micros~1

	You've got it all wrong (none / 0) (#91)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:39:18 PM PST

	1. Changeing ISP's Most Kids and informed adults want faster connection @home provides broadband which is faster access - That's All 2. The Software you didn't reconise "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash". These Are Comet Cusor - Is a cusor modification tool - Not hacking, Bonzai Buddy Is a Desktop Freind, and Flash is a Web authoring/presentation tool None of these have to do with hacking. 3. Asking for new hardware is common place. He probably just wants better graphics for games. 4. None of thoes Books are hacking manuals. Trust Me 5. He could be playing games. Or surfing the Web i pesonally spend about 16 -20 hours a day in front of a computer without breaking any laws 6. QUAKE - It's a Game that can be played On-line completely usless -Infact AIM/ICQ is more of a hacking meeting place. 7. It's called being a teenager 8. It's Linux Not "Lunix" 8.1 It's based on a commersial O/S used by MOST LARGE CORPERATIONS call "UNIX" 8.2 Linux is easy to remove off HD partitions with out taking the machine back to the vendors 8.3 It's A commercial O/S and using it could give him a Boost in the future job market 8.4 Lilo - It's a bootloader and can be by passed easily using a boot disk you don't need LILO to boot linux 9. That's Techno Rave that's more to do with drugs than hacking. 10. The reason that your son could be struggling could be any number of reasons A. Dyslexia\| B. Not doing home work\| C. Being Dim Any of these explain it better that radition because by your standards most hackers would be idiots. They are quite the opposite and Exetreemly clever and intelligent many of them being extreemly good at maths, cryptograpy. ANYONE WHO FOLLOWS THIS MAN'S ADVICE IS GOING TO ALIENATE THEIR SON AND FAMILY. AND RUIN ANY CHANCE THEIR SON/DAUGHTER HAS IN THE IT INDUSTRIE. THIS KIND OF PROPERGANDA IS DANGROUS AND SHOULD BE IGNORED AND SCRAPPED.

	Oh Dear!!!! (none / 0) (#6287)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 03:43:54 AM PST

	/me bangs head on table numerous times!!! /me explains the concept of a joke to Thick Twat!!

	A most laughable and uninformed article. (0.00 / 1) (#94)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:42:04 PM PST

	Your article was plainly written without a drop of research. I was startled and disappointed to see the nonsense you preach in it. 1. Has your son asked you to change ISPs? AOL is an inferior Internet service provider. Period. There are legitimate reasons to switch away from a low-quality provider such as AOL; higher speeds and better technical support come to mind first. If your son/daughter is a "hacker," they will have no problem getting around AOL's filters. 2. Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing? Do you even know what Comet Cursor, Bonzi Buddy or Flash ARE? I don't think you do! You seem to think anyone who steals software is a "hacker." They are not. They are thieves, plain and simple. 3. Has your child asked for new hardware? All I can do is shake my head at this. A true hacker requires nothing more than a text interface to perform his/her craft, not faster video cards or processors. Also, anyone who asks for a Matrox video card is either a business user, into video editing or is completely uninformed. "AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips." OK, you're a fucking IDIOT. AMD makes the best x86 chips out there. They do not make "knock-offs." Yes, their fabs (fabrication facilities) are located world-wide, and so are Intel's, and so are Via's. They do NOT use child labour; highly-trained technicians and engineers are the only ones doing the manual labour in AMD's operations. Do some research, dumbass. 4. Does your child read hacking manuals? Oh boy. This one made me laugh. Almost all of the books you listed have NOTHING TO DO WITH LEARNING TO "HACK." "Cyptonomicon" is a genuinely fascinating look at data encryption, and blends fact with a fictitious story. "Programming with PERL?" PERL is a powerful data extraction language used on machines worldwide. It is incredibly powerful for a wide range of data manipulation tasks. I would be PROUD of my child trying to master this language! The ignorance you display here is astounding, and the fact that you suggest parents lobby to have such books removed from shelves is the most outrageous and idiotic thing I have read in your article yet. 5. How much time does your child spend using the computer each day? YOU... ARE... A... FUCKING... IDIOT. I spend upwards of 8 hours on my computer each day; much of this time involves my school studies, and much of it is spent communicating with my peers online and learning. Suggesting your child is attempting to execute a Denial of Service (DOS) attack because they're spending too much time on the computer is the most illogical leap of reason I HAVE EVER HEARD. You should be ASHAMED. That's like assuming your child is planning to use his new iceskates to slit the throat of a 7-11 clerk. Get a clue! 6. Does your son use Quake? "Quake is an online virtual reality used by hackers. It is a popular meeting place and training ground, where they discuss hacking and train in the use of various firearms." Wrong again, you moron! Quake is a GAME. Granted, Quake is a violent game, and I do not believe it is suitable for young children... but it is far from a "training ground" for hackers! 7. Is your son becoming argumentative and surly in his social behaviour? One word: TEENAGERS. (And of course he's going to be surly and argumentative in his behaviour if you try and approach him with the bullshit in this article! If you're going to approach him, at least be properly informed first!) 8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"? It's spelled "Linux," you stupid fucking dolt. Your total lack of research surfaces here (again). LINUX was invented by a FINNISH (not Soviet) man named LINUS TRAVOLDS (not Linyos Torovoltos) in 1991. "Lunix" is meant for older 8-bit processors, not the machines we use today. If you had VISITED THE LINK YOU MADE, you would KNOW THIS! Linux is also stable, free, and extremely powerful to those who know how to use it properly. It can save you time and money, and is arguably one of the best operating systems out there. If your son or daughter was able to even INSTALL it successfully, they are capable of greater things. You should encourage this exploration, not hide away in fear! "These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers." Uhh... what programs? Linux? Linux is an operating system, dumbass. "They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program." That's INSANELY FUCKING MORONIC. You can't connect to a stereo to steal music! You don't even know what an MP3 is, do you? DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH. MPEG Layer 3 (MP3) files are a way of storing music on a computer without taking up too much hard disk space. "MP3" is not a program... it is the set of rules and standards that define the creation and playback of MP3s. Have you ever even used a computer? 9. Has your son radically changed his appearance? This made me laugh out loud (again). You're describing "ravers," the kids who like to go listen to someone spin electronica records in warehouses all night long. The pacifiers are used to combat the clenching mouth that taking ecstasy causes. For crying out loud, I don't go to raves and I know this! RESEARCH IS YOUR FRIEND. Try it sometime! 10. Is your son struggling academically? Oh, yeah... so obviously when your kid is pulling in bad grades, he's part of a hacking group. PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. If your child is being challenged and engaged by his academics, he will put effort into it. He doesn't need your paranoia and misguided rantings... especially based on this non-article. Electromagnetic radiation from monitors will not cause meningitis any more than watching TV, talking on your cell phone or listening to your hi-fi stereo will. Yes, spending too much time on the computer could lead to an unhealthy lifestyle... but understand that this does not make computers evil or unhealthy. They might be the most powerful tool you have access to, and anyone who understands how to use them to their fullest extent will do very well for themselves in a computing career. All things in moderation. --- As someone who is training to make his living in technology, and someone who has had computers around all his life, I am disgusted and appalled by the quality of this article. It is, quite literally, a work of fiction. Next time you write an article, you need to read up on your subject first so you don't: 1) misinform parents 2) make a total ass out of yourself That being said, I would be more than happy to help you out with future articles. furious_wombat@hotmail.com Student of Network Engineering Proud to be [H]

	Linux (none / 0) (#3977)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Dec 14th, 2001 at 04:24:00 PM PST

	Heh, and the creator of Linux was not TRAVOLDS, it's TORVALDS ;)

	nice! (none / 0) (#4598)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Dec 18th, 2001 at 08:25:04 PM PST

	Dude this is a really good responce to that idiotic arcticle. my granddad knows more about computers, and he still has one of those castiron talk into the base phones.

	what a dumb@$$ (0.00 / 1) (#96)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:45:07 PM PST

	geeze! that shows how much u know about computers: Here are my favourite points of BS: #1) In order to get rid of it, you will have to send your computer back to the manufacturer, and have them fit a new hard drive. Lunix is extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without destroying part of your hard disk surface. buddy, its called REFORMAT #2) Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"? u can't even spell linux #3) Quake is an online virtual reality used by hackers where did u pick that one from #4) Programming with Perl perl is a programmin language used by MANY SITES accross the internet, some familiar ones are microsoft (to a small extent), yahoo, google... #5) Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash". Real hackers wouldn't install any of this stuff on, except flash, which would have nothing to do with any of this. comet cursor and bonzi are DESPISED by hackers... ========== its YOU that needs to learn more about your computers, and maybe you can ask your "hacker" son to teach you...

	yeah! (none / 0) (#1344)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 5th, 2001 at 07:54:13 PM PST

	ur right man. this guy is a f**kin idiot

	HELL FUCKIN YEA - this post by kodekiller@yahoo.co (none / 0) (#1436)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Dec 6th, 2001 at 12:06:41 AM PST

	hacker's hmm? bonzi buddy and comet cursor, were most likely install by YOU YOURSELF mr gibbons. they are gay bonzi buddy is a stupid monkey that talks to you about your website i FEEL VERY SORRY FOR YOUR KIDS since they never seem to get upgrades if you sun was anykind of hacker, you wouldnt have bonzi buddy installed - for he would remove it himself.... also bright clothes with a pacifier, hes most likely a raver that does extacy, get concerned in that not hacking MORON if you are serious about this fucking post, then i hope you rot and i do have jesus as my savior, doesnt mean i am a moron like you IDIOT your son wouldnt DOS other people if i could look at you right now we would either have a never ending discussion untill you learned, or i would just pop you in the face. idiot

	Bemusing man (none / 0) (#3559)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 12th, 2001 at 08:03:13 PM PST

	wot an entertaining article, and all the miffed replies, gee, arent we speshul! and its funny, as soon as an article such as this appears, how everyone quickly replies to point out the writers "mistakes", some of us arent too bright are we now? :)

	This is rediculous. (0.00 / 1) (#97)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:45:08 PM PST

	uhm, this article is rediculous. ------- Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash". ------- none of those have anything to do with hacking.. ------- If your son spends more than thirty minutes each day on the computer, he may be using it to DOS other peoples sites. ------- 30 Mins? hahaha .. ------- 6. Does your son use Quake? ------- Quake is a GAME .. you stupid-head. ------- If your son has undergone a sudden change in his style of dress, you may have a hacker on your hands. Hackers tend to dress in bright, day-glo colors. -------- What does dress have anything to do with .. well, anything. Whoever wrote this article should be fired.

	Did you really thinK? (none / 0) (#2386)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 9th, 2001 at 03:28:37 PM PST

	. . . that the author(s) do not know what Cmet Cursr is, what Quke is, where AMD lives? Do you ever think?* (Actually, you should be fired . . . with a rocket launcher 'tween yo' peepers. Speaking of games . . . if we were playing *Who can catch the most morons, Robert Reginald Rodriguez (a.k.a. T. Reginald Gibbons) et.al. would definitely take first place. A Toast! To the victors.* ( - Killing Joke - )

	i r leat liek jeff k (none / 0) (#100)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:48:25 PM PST

	I R USE AOL TO MAKE MUHLEY EN MAH LUNIX MACHINE MOOMIE PLEZ GAVE ME DSL ADN A NEW ATI RAGE CUZ I WANTAR TO HAXOR. Whomever wrote this article needs to get a serious life outside the house. 'Hacking' is completely different as the author portrays it. I say everyone DOS (Denial of Service) attacks this website. Hell, I bet the servers FOR this website use Linux. NOT LUNIX. Thank you, everyone is now a few IQ points lower from reading your article. -Epi [H]ard\|Forum

	blargh (none / 0) (#2888)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 10th, 2001 at 09:47:35 PM PST

	Hook, line, skinker moron

	Re: i r leat liek jeff k (none / 0) (#3298)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Dec 11th, 2001 at 11:38:07 PM PST

	"Thank you, everyone is now a few IQ points lower from reading your article." judging from your post, you are about to hit rock-bottom anyway.

	Good Answer! (none / 0) (#4765)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Dec 20th, 2001 at 09:41:27 AM PST

	I couldn't have said it better. I wasn't going to even acknowledge that I saw this site, but someone sent it to me and I had some idle time on my hands so I decided to waste it here. I saw your comment and really enjoyed it!

	get a clue dumbass (0.00 / 1) (#104)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:54:30 PM PST

	you should be put in jail loser i like your comments about amd how lovely, if anyone uses or wants to use their processor they must be hackers, or when your kids do bad in school they are in hacking groups what if they dont have a computer? should we all still be concerned? you're the reason aol will never die. Aols children protection is a joke in itself. I recently was shown a link that had a "100%girls" link in the kids only online menu for "safe" websites. In case you're wondering, that's a PORN site. I guess your son must have had his "hacking group" put that there so he could access it. He's the way it really is, if your son uses aol, he's a loser just like his dad. There are NO "hackers" or "smart people" on AOL. PERIOD. Stay on aol so you and the rest of the idiots in america can be held in a different area that the rest of us smart people who have a clue. My name is bringer and my email address is bringer@mediaone.net <-- not homo aol. email me with any comments you overcontroling idiot.

	This sort of article is unacceptable (5.00 / 1) (#105)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:54:37 PM PST

	First of all I would like to make an apology to your kids on the behalf of the human race that they have such poor parents. This sort of ultra-conservative self-serving b*llshit would make me vomit if I wasn't laughing so hard. I had my mom, a technological neophyte read these article. She knows little about computers, but even she found some of your points, especially those about Quake, a faster ISP and AMD highly comical. At first I thought that this article was a joke, but after reading the comments below, I'm not so sure, and I'm frankly a bit frightened at the blind hostility to technology that many of you seem to exhibit. In fact, many define hacker as a person who merely looks into software code to see how it works with no malicious intent. All they have is a desire to figure out how stuff works and in some cases, improve it. Perhaps the informative posts here have informed the confused that this article has only comedic value and is frighteningly inaccurate. If not, I fear for our future. Get a clue before some real 1337 ha><0rs fu><0r yuo up.

	i hope this article was a joke. (none / 0) (#6705)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jan 19th, 2002 at 08:47:41 PM PST

	i have nothing more to say

	this is a dumb article (none / 0) (#6719)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Jan 20th, 2002 at 04:05:49 PM PST

	spending more than 30 minutes a day online????? Half the boys that have comps in America spend more than 30 minutes a day online duhhhhhhh. wearing baggy pants a spiky here yeah sure you just cant accept that thats way kids dress these days dress welcome to the 21st century over half the kids at schools will dress like that. As for Quake oh my god its a violent game it will make kids go on killing rampages 99.9 percent of the kids that play it wont go on killing rampages plus there are other games just like quake but you all have to make a big deal about quake(i still havnt figured out why) and plus kids cant buy quake unless they have and ID saying there at least 17 so if the parents buy the kids them its there own fault and changing ISP from AOL im sorry but AOL just plain sucks and lots of kids that ARNT hackers might want to change from AOhell before i got kicked 3 times in a row so kids wanting to change from AOL prolly isnt a sign of them hacking and thats all i have to say.

	Yea A Giant Joke (none / 0) (#7018)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Feb 8th, 2002 at 08:04:56 PM PST

	This article is a total load of bull. The sterotype that he is creating about hackers is totally wrong. I am NOT a hacker, yet i fit into about 6-7 of the questions that are listed. There are many reasons why someone would anwser yes to those question and most anwsers are not because thay are hackers. These are a few examples 1. Changing ISP going for better service going for faster connection new type of connection avaliable the list goes on and on for every question he has listed. Second , linux fan might just like linux and posiablly not care for an ms os. I would much rater have linux than win ME.

	i know most peple have it abandoned this (none / 0) (#7897)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Sep 8th, 2002 at 11:03:46 AM PST

	i think its horrible that anyone would post an article, even in jest. the signs in the article sugest it to be of comic nature e.g. the links etc. i think i have almost crossed the line into being a hacker. mind you i dont do anything maleiciously. i have never harmed another system or tried to do so. i would fall under my schools definitions of a hacker. "A Person who wants to learn everything about a system and push it to the highes possible level of performance" this definithon sickens me.

	i know most peple have it abandoned this (none / 0) (#7898)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Sep 8th, 2002 at 11:08:34 AM PST

	i think its horrible that anyone would post an article, even in jest. the signs in the article sugest it to be of comic nature e.g. the links etc. i think i have almost crossed the line into being a hacker. mind you i dont do anything maleiciously. i have never harmed another system or tried to do so. i would fall under my schools definitions of a hacker. "A Person who wants to learn everything about a system and push it to the highes possible level of performance" this definithon sickens me.

	this sort of article is unacceptable (none / 0) (#6756)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 21st, 2002 at 07:45:29 PM PST

	me thinks your into a little hacking yourself. Your temper and potty mouth says it all and trust me your temper tantrum at reading this and of course your reply will again show me your guilty. Shame on you all the guy was saying is protect your kids but me thinks your not old enough to know that[emotionally/phsycally].

	ooo, youre funny (none / 0) (#6766)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 21st, 2002 at 11:47:00 PM PST

	wait, no your not. you just an ignorant person.

	Don't be an idiot!!!!!! (none / 0) (#6794)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 22nd, 2002 at 11:47:00 AM PST

	Don't be an idiot. And by the way, who the hell says "me thinks" not once but twice in the same paragraph. It's obvious that "parents" (or whoever you claim to be) don't have a clue about the world of computers, for example: "Has your child asked for new hardware?" In case you twits haven't noticed, you need hardware upgrades every 18 months to 2 years if you want your computer to be compatible with new software. And one more thing the "Does your son use Quake?" question truly shows your ignorance. Millions of people play Quake not just hackers, and when people chat on the forums we don't "discuss hacking and train in the use of various firearms" These remarks show your own ignorance and ineptitude to raze your children in an ever changing world that your will simply never understand.

	Train in firearms? (none / 0) (#6811)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 22nd, 2002 at 04:17:21 PM PST

	With regard to the Quake teaching kids to use various firearms: I can imagine if the poor 12 year old ever did get their hands on a machine gun. "But, where's the 'Ctrl' key?" :-)

	Quake training (none / 0) (#6911)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Jan 25th, 2002 at 10:34:15 AM PST

	I'd like to see a 12 year old get his hands on a BFG. I might have to take him over my knee.

	Teaching virtual from real (none / 0) (#7020)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Feb 8th, 2002 at 08:11:48 PM PST

	Quake training, big deal If u teach the child that there is a diffrence from virtual and real violence than there is no problem. I know the diffrence between half life and firing an m16 at someone. The author of this artile "IS your child a hacker has a few major screws left and has lost his screwdriver" Someone help him find it quick b4 he writes something like this again :(

	you don't know the real world (none / 0) (#7287)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Mar 29th, 2002 at 02:02:44 AM PST

	I have read articles about how games help you train to kill people, that is complete bullshit. I know first hand the difference. Anyone played paintball or airsoft??? Plus, if you teach your kids correctly, they won't have a problem. I guess all the naive "parents" complaining about computers here DON'T KNOW HOW TO TEACH THEIR KIDS RIGHT FROM WRONG!

	*clap clap clap* (none / 0) (#7588)
	by InvaderTIM on Mon Jun 17th, 2002 at 04:34:44 PM PST

	You are correct sir

	NEW OS, Hardware (none / 0) (#7021)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Feb 8th, 2002 at 08:19:04 PM PST

	I don't know about every1 else but I like to get the new hardware and the new Software when I can. You can go out and get a state of the art pc and in 2 years it will useless. OK perfect example I got a P3 @ 550MHz with win 98se about 3 years ago. Now this pile of junk is about 1/4 as fast as what is out there now. Do you really want your child going through high school and college with a 486 or a p1 while the rest of the world is runing p4's and Athlons at 2Ghz + Yea right, you want them to fail miserably Schools and work today require the technology that is at a max of about 2-3 years old. If you go past that most of the software out on the market won't run on your PC.

	True (none / 0) (#7116)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Mar 4th, 2002 at 04:24:51 PM PST

	oh and that Sht about AMD not being sold is stores...when I was looking for a new laptop one of the HPs I was looking at in a store had AMD in it....you can buy AMD anywhere because they are cheaper. I also thought they were american not asian and they are not copies....Intel and AMD were in a race to get to 1GHz first yet they both got there around the same time. AMD is just another good company out there. With computers you need to upgrade at least every two years! With laptops you can go maybe another year or two since they cost a lot and are not used as much as desktops. For a desktop, if you do not get top of the line, you will have to upgrade your computer a ton and then still need a new computer in a few years. Whoever wrote this page is very dumb and knows nothing about computers and the internet. That sht about Telnet too...my brother uses Telnet just to read his email!!!! All the software labeled as hacker software is just free download stuff which no one even wants to start with...like commet cursor (I keep having to uninstall it since it installs itself. All it does it changes the cursor on your computer to what the website uses...yet it only lasts while you are on that page.). For those "Hacker Books", the Perl one is called programming not hacking. My other brother uses Perl to make CGI pages while I use VBscipt to make ASP pages. I think the person who made this site needs to grow a brain and get a life...while giving his children back their lives cause it seems this dad has f*cked them up badly by just being their dad.

	What the hell is wrong with you!?! (none / 0) (#6852)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 23rd, 2002 at 09:43:46 AM PST

	bitch.

	do some research (none / 0) (#7534)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri May 31st, 2002 at 04:09:11 PM PST

	u sure knows nothing about hackers, if u knew u would know that there r easier ways to talk other than playin quake, ya its a game, not a communit... and please, askin for new hardware doesn't make a hacker, it only shows u that your children knows more about pc than u do and he wants a comp that is faster, not for hackin, but because he doesnt like to wait days for something he is doing now... u say someone is guilty just because he replys your msg?? so everyone that have different oppinion than you is a hacker?? Oh that makes you the best person to talk about something in the world "oh, u dont agree with me?? that shows me you are guilty about that!"

	Just One Word (none / 0) (#6783)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 22nd, 2002 at 06:37:00 AM PST

	Proooooooooooot ! loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

	Just One Word (none / 0) (#6784)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 22nd, 2002 at 06:37:48 AM PST

	Proooooooooooot ! loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

	actually i think it is entirely acceptable. (none / 0) (#6924)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jan 26th, 2002 at 06:40:27 AM PST

	The more you read it the more you can see it's plainly a very clever spoof. Articles like this make people think - as you can see by the many replies to this particular article. Nice work imo.

	What??? (none / 0) (#7019)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Feb 8th, 2002 at 08:06:13 PM PST

	Why would u find this article acceptiable?

	This Guy Is Fucking Nutz (none / 0) (#6949)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Jan 27th, 2002 at 10:15:08 PM PST

	Ive been known to of dabbled in DDos and hacking for many yrs along with many others I know.. Not 1 of us went throught any changes this quack says. To all ignore this peice of sahit tryin to talk out his ass =)

	Who the hell wrote this?! (none / 0) (#7052)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Feb 15th, 2002 at 10:07:38 AM PST

	OK first off I'd like to thank the author of this site for such a good laugh, I've not laughed so hard for a long time. Firstly, I think that you are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too over protective, I'm surprised your kids didn't leave home, I would if my parent's were like that with me. I had great pleasure reading about AMD, once again I found it hilarious and so did my brother. How do you get kids educated enough to make a processor in a "Sweatshop" that isn't static free?. People like you never fail to fill me with amaizment at how your kids can grow up like that, It's no wonder your eldest stayed in if you treat him as you did, going to parties to make sure there was no alcohol. Allowing them to drink below the legal age raises awareness to alcohol abuse as I know, my parents did it with me. Please feel free to write another web page like this, it will provide me with much entertainment when I'm bored. Maybe try thinking about what you write next time you publish something like this. Feel free to E-mail me to discuss this further, Might provide me with some more laughter! m.roughley@blueyonder.co.uk Oh and by the way, I wanted my dad to get a faster computer and the fastest internet commercially available in the UK. I got them, Answer me this, Am I now a Hacker? Get a life please, for your kids sake!

	"pacifier" "glowstick" (none / 0) (#7054)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Feb 15th, 2002 at 03:42:16 PM PST

	is this the description of a RAVER?

	exactly what i thought ;o) (none / 0) (#7152)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Mar 10th, 2002 at 08:24:56 PM PST

	i read that, and was dumbfounded by the description of myself, a kandy raver... hmm i must be a i33t0 hax0r now.. go me ;o)

	is that l33t? (none / 0) (#7060)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Feb 17th, 2002 at 06:17:28 PM PST

	was that l33t at the end of your message? <001 !

	marxc2001: l33t is (none / 0) (#7290)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Mar 29th, 2002 at 01:07:23 PM PST

	a shortened form of 'ELITE' Take the 'leet' part, replace the e's with 3's (they are similar) and you get 'l33t'. marxc2001@yahoo.com

	HAHA LMAO!!! (none / 0) (#7061)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Feb 17th, 2002 at 09:09:04 PM PST

	QUOTE: If your son has undergone a sudden change in his style of dress, you may have a hacker on your hands. Hackers tend to dress in bright, day-glo colors. They may wear baggy pants, bright colored shirts and spiky hair dyed in bright colors to match their clothes. They may take to carrying "glow-sticks" and some wear pacifiers around their necks. (I have no idea why they do this) There are many such hackers in schools today, and your son may have started to associate with them. If you notice that your son's group of friends includes people dressed like this, it is time to think about a severe curfew, to protect him from dangerous influences. HAHAHA LADY, YOUR KIDS A FUCKIN RAVER!!! HAHAHA

	Let me guess...You're an Amish?!?!?! (none / 0) (#7078)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Feb 21st, 2002 at 08:50:10 AM PST

	My friend let me tell you something ..in the 1994 i gave my son a Pc .. he already had poor grades in sports so he spent most of his time in the pc...he became a hacker ...got caught ..you know what happened then???Due to this adventure of his a great university and a great computer company in japan ofered to pay him is studies ..my son became a math genious (is grades were amazing) my soon is now 21 years old finished university and M.I.T. Let me teel you something .You are killing your sonn's Future. he first was a hacker ..now he programms Firewalls that stop people such as ''the cult of the dead cow''. And by the way computer radiation does not kill, if you are concerned with that be less of a weasel and spend more money in protections such as Monitors with a plasma Screan that do not put out radiations. YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE ...THE SAME KIND OF PERSON THAT WHEN TELEVISION APPEARED CALLED THE DEVICE ...THE DEVIL. And let me guess ...from the way things are going you tell your daughters that children come from a bird and your son will probably be a virgin till he spends is money in a hooker. Good day sir Asshole parent! Sadisticangel@portugalmail.pt

	*CLAPS* (none / 0) (#7896)
	by Opticon on Sun Sep 8th, 2002 at 10:51:17 AM PST

	Well said, i couldnt agree less

	Ah.. you are wrong. (none / 0) (#7115)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Mar 4th, 2002 at 06:17:55 AM PST

	[QUOTE]Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing? Your son will probably try to install some hacker software. He may attempt to conceal the presence of the software in some way, but you can usually find any new programs by reading through the programs listed under "Install/Remove Programs" in your control panel. Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash".[QUOTE] 1. Comet Cursor is NOT a hacker software. It is used to change the cursor on your computer 2. Bonzi Buddy is a little ANNOYING purple monkey that talks & tells jokes and is NOT a hacker software. 3. Flash. Well, what the heck?! thats used for websites!!!! 4. Quake, thats a game. 5. If your son asks for a better video card, more RAM, More space; maby he wants to play diffrent computer games better. So he wont LAG, or his Frames per second wont go down!

	About the software ... (none / 0) (#7181)
	by Vulcano on Sun Mar 17th, 2002 at 02:46:12 PM PST

	Well you're kinda misinformed also ,, comet cursor, bonzi,gator and other sh*t programs are spy-ware, look it up. Also well known spyware : real audio, yep ...

	bonzi buddy? (none / 0) (#7426)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon May 6th, 2002 at 06:14:59 PM PST

	Bonzi Buddy is none other the SpyWare, if it is on your computer and you wish to remove it's dirty little bugs, go to http://www.lsfileserv.com/ and download Ad-Aware, an anti spyware program. you might be suprised about how much spyware is on your computer.

	Definiton of Hacker (none / 0) (#7122)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Mar 5th, 2002 at 01:15:08 PM PST

	This Article Is A Line Of Garbage, The Phrase Hacker Refers To People Beyond The Knowledge Of Others In Computer,At That The Line Of "HACKER" Could Be Directed At the Goverment(Cyber Terrorists Police) And If So Are They Crooks To? Because They Are Computer Geniouses With A Imagination And A Mind WithOut a Distorted Belief Other Than To Conquer (Cyber Terrorism). Before The Name "HACKER" Should Be Placed Upon The Name Of A Child Either By Friend Or Foe It Is Earned Through His Or Her Knowledge, Not By Quake(Whom "Parents Over The Years Have Tried To Make People Thing Is A Sucicidal Delima")I Would Know This I Am A Robtics Engineer(Machine Language)/Programmer. And I have Been In College Since "14", If Anything "The Computer" Has Taught Me Everything I Know I'm Still Not A "HACKER",The Phrase Hacker Belongs Like I Said To The Goverment(Cyber Terrorist Police) And Or Programmers Of Large Companies. The Definition That I Deam Appropriate Would Be The Names "Cracker""Phreaker"Warrer""SoftWare Pirate".Along The Lines Of This We Come Across The Word "POSER",This Word Illustrates A Person That Has No Knowledge At All Of Computers Only To Go And Use Programms That "1337"Hackers Have Made.Also "Linux" Maybe What Most Think Is Hacker Ware.Unfortunatly (Big Corporations Use This Software. Well to Let You All Know It Is Religious People That Disgust Me And I Suggest Every Computer Person,Thats Is A (24/7 Computer Player) Purchase The Shirt "I Am Not Anti-Social I Just Don't Like Stupid People" A Great Defense To What Many Think Is a Psychological Problem. -Thxs For Your time (En0cH) (Story Of The Day)Did You Know That 89% Of Hackers Convicted Of Federal Crimes, End Up As Security Managment to Big Corporations And Or Your Goverment?,(Note) Creator Of Linuxs, Created The Program While In Federal Prison Under,This Was Brought To His Attention To Create It For Govermental Use.

	I am a hacker (none / 0) (#7289)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Mar 29th, 2002 at 01:02:17 PM PST

	1. Hacking (ETHICALLY) is set to earn me in region of 120000 (one hundred and twenty thousand!) pounds PER YEAR (around 10000 per month) if I hit it right. 2. We all get on fine. £. Articles like this give us a BAD NAME. Only a few destroy systems. EVERYONE SHOULD IGNORE THIS ARTICLE!!!!!!!!!!!

	right on (none / 0) (#7300)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Mar 31st, 2002 at 03:52:47 PM PST

	amen.

	Oh my god - what the....? (none / 0) (#7324)
	by mnielsen273 on Mon Apr 8th, 2002 at 12:56:48 AM PST

	I have very little to say, but can we please remove this article? This is the most embarrassing thing I've ever read in my life. Hackers use Flash and Bonzai buddy as tools of infiltration? Geez, when did that happen? Please save the brains of the members of this forum and remove this article immediately.

	I just have to say,, (none / 0) (#7485)
	by trach on Mon May 27th, 2002 at 10:12:37 AM PST

	I'm not going to get started, as there are enough people who have posted what I think already, but I have to say this guy is a complete tool! A tool of obliviosity and ignorance. Oh, you do realise basically every infant is a hacker, they all have pacifiers. If your infant is in possession of a pacifier, encarcerate them immediantly before it is too late! Get in early.

	I agree (none / 0) (#7500)
	by gennixx1 on Tue May 28th, 2002 at 12:26:09 PM PST

	I agree. I guess I am a computer hacker as well. So are half the people in America who want better quality computers. Another thing anyone who thinks they have the model family in America has some deep rooted problems.

	Hacker? You've got to be kidding me (none / 0) (#7717)
	by DaBrain on Wed Jul 24th, 2002 at 08:41:41 PM PST

	From your description of what makes a hacker, i'm SCARED to think how you even have kids... Quake- used for GAMING Faster IPS- used for GAMING Better equipment for the computer- used for GAMING Please, get a clue about technology before you call gamers hackers...

	Ok you are by far the dumbest fucker on earth! (none / 0) (#7817)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Aug 24th, 2002 at 02:50:09 PM PST

	Okay finally after laughing non-stop for 2 hours 32 minutes and 21 seconds I have time to post this. I will list things you are 110% wrong about. - Flash is a graphics making program not a hacking program you stupid fucking yuppie. - Programming with Perl is not a hacking book, see programming is a helpful thing...It makes programs like Windows so yuppie's like you can get on the internet. - Hackers don't wear pacifiers! BABIES SUCK ON THEM JUST LIKE YOU SUCK ON DICK. - Linux is not dangerous software you fool...Hahahaha its an operating system except its not as lame as winblows. You need to learn and quickly my friend. - I feel sorry for your kids that they have to go through this. My thoughts go out to you...You six kids are without a doubt the bravest kids ever! - Hackers don't dress a certain way, you must be thinking of "Ravers" or "Extacy Users" not hackers. - This isin't something your wrong bout...Its a question...What do you do for a living? - Also I wanna know where you get off saying Quake is a bad game...Games don't attract hackers fool. Oh fuck this shit I quit man my hands are starting to develop blisters from typing all this shit up. I agree with anyone who reads this because you are an over-cautious parent and should be beaten and sent to jail so you can get your asshole ripped you stupid yuppie. This has to be a joke because no-one is that serious about this and that ignorant!

	<b> WIDELY NARROW </b> (none / 0) (#107)
	by computerologist on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:56:49 PM PST

	realizes he uses a computer with an AMD chip in it then realizes he's also got a high end graphics card opens his red hat linux the fires up flash and opens quake and shoots people while he's waiting for flash to laod, and listens to electronic music. looks at T Reginald Gibbons name... types in the console terminal of flash .. >dos:hyperterminal/whois/T reginald gibbons/ >#!/usr/bin/rm/id10t/ >ping traceroute/IP/123.61.091.23 *decides he is going to 1337 H4><0r joo <b>PLEASE</b> i have never seen so much lack of intellegence in one post...have you gone completey stupid..do you really think that what you say is correct? quite honestly i have never been so completly annoyed by any one person's ignorance in a very long time. i mean seriously...is there anyone here that has the slightest knowledge of computers? are you a complete moron, i'm thinking yes...flash??? hacker program...oh yes of course...and photoshop...please....and lets not forget that hackers have glow sticks..HAHAHAHA...it is offbase id10ts like yourself that put so much fear into the hearts of the unknowing...i'm going to make sure everyone i know the computer industry makes a visit to this thread..BTW...I'M in the computer industry and i know exactly how uninteligent you really are...you may have a few of these other poor saps fooled with your knowledge of such great hacking programs like DOS and FLASH...i however know better...i really hope people like you with computer hating ideas and lack of knowledge really learn something about what your acusations really mean....i'm going to unleash my bonzai buddy onto you ..and have it chomp its way thru your computer and find out all of your dirty secrets..i feel i have lost a few braincells and lowered my iq a couple points after reading this <b>trash</b> you think is information. thank you...moron

	Please god let this be a joke (none / 0) (#109)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:58:22 PM PST

	OK you Sir need tot hink about what you said and what you wrote down, beacuse as I see it you just described every teenager with a love for computers perl a hacking book you have got to be kiding right perl is a programing language and nothing else it's not used to "hack" or learn to do so, Linux,Unix is what your ISP uses (yes even AOL) and this server you are using right now to post this message uses linux, there are very few servers witch do not use a *nix based system to run, Flash my friend is a gfx program used for making small internet freindly movies .swf files witch can be embeded into a page on the server and when viewed the movie plays, Faster video cards would be call for the shitty 4 MB card your using at the moment that probly has trouble playing any game better then pac man so a nice 32 MB card would run the video games alot nicer smother and at all in most cases seing as 32 MB cards these days are normal, AMD's well the way you talk about the AMDS CPU it sounds to me like you work for Intell, but that couldn't be so as someone as stupid as you could never get such a job, My mother is at work fvrom 9 - 5 on a computer dose that mean she has enough time to dos someone, Quake is a game and that's all it is I have played it maybe once and dont like it to much, so a hacker has to be a skinny pimple faced weak teenager does he well FYI I bench 160 pounds 400 reps 50 a set with 1 minutes breaks in betwen, but hangon that would make me normal would it, and in no way is your son a hacker if he is struggling academically as you so nicly put it, hackers tend to be smarter then the normal everyday joe and "will" do much better in school provided they are encouriged and not put down all the time by their parents such as you, maybe your son just needs a little love a little caring on your part beacuse it sounds to me that your whole life has been boot camp and you are doing as your parents did to you to your son, maybe you should ease up of him just a little bit and tell him you care about him and thats the reason your doing all of this and one day maybe you could sit down with him infront of the computer and maybe learn something be part of your sons life instead of being his father maybe be a friend once in a wile as this is how your son feels, I seriously hope this is a joke writen by someone as if it is not it is the sadest story I have ever read not on your sons part but on your part that you feel this way that you think this way it realy gets to me, And by the way for the person that said this could be used as a starting point for a hacker get real would you type hacker into any serch engine on the web and see what you get, Thank you if you read this and understand but I dought you did read it and if you did I dought you understand it..

	You are a complete MORON (none / 0) (#110)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:58:43 PM PST

	Yes you, you have no idea what you are talking about.....check your facts before you spew stupid crap like this....GET A LIFE! Qball

	Good god, this is ridiculous! (none / 0) (#111)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:00:31 PM PST

	Let me shake a wee tad of sense into your obviously very odd head. Moving on, I believe this article was created in jest. If it was not, then I truly cannot believe your stupidity! Allow me to refute each and every one of your "points" and you can even receive the added benefit of my sarcasm and wit! Additionally, I will attempt to spell correctly and create proper sentences, in strong contrast with many of these responses. If you even attempt to call me a hacker because of my knowledge of the "dark side of computers" (anything not AOL or Compaq :P) then I will be forced to DOS you. LMAO. 1. Has your son asked you to change ISPs? Well. Allow me to start off by saying that your astounding knowledge of computers and the "intraweb" is evident in your first question. Normally changing ISPs would be a tad odd, however, from AOL, he could not be blamed. I know that any "hacker" would not ask to switch from AOL, because they would be able to navigate around the "watchdog protection" with comparable ease. However, this has been done to death, so lets move on. Bottom line: You're an idiot if you use AOL, can't blame him. 2. Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing? As much as it wounds me to admit it, you may have a sort of point here. Although your examples are borderline retarded for reasons mentioned in the above responses, it is true that you could find new programs here. However, most "hacker" programs that one could use (ie ones to DOS you.) would not show up here. They're not retards. etc, etc. I can go on forever showing what a DUMBASS you are. But even your stupidity has bored me now. Thanks for the laugh. I appreciate *LAUGHING AT YOUR GOD DAMNED STUPIDITY RETARD. GO JUMP OFF A BRIDGE FOR YOUR SON'S SAKE.* It's people like you that give the internet a bad reputation.

	LMFAO!!! (none / 0) (#1303)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 5th, 2001 at 06:49:42 PM PST

	Too bad all of you "l33t h4xx0rs" cant understand SATIRE!! Get out from in front of the computer, get laid and read a book. Try the dictionary...start with "s", i hear SATIRE is an interesting word!

	Morons that replied.. (none / 0) (#3414)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 12th, 2001 at 10:42:20 AM PST

	This article is a obviously a joke. I'm sure the author is laughing his ass off at all you enraged yougins replying.

	This is a joke, right? (none / 0) (#115)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:09:38 PM PST

	This HAS to be a joke. No one could possibly be this incredibly stupid. If it isn't, I pity your children having such a nazi for a father. Let me provide some counterpoint to the items listed here. 1. Has your son asked you to change ISPs? Ok, first off, if he wants to change ISPs, chances are he'll do it without your knowledge by gaining access to either shell accounts (not an ISP I know but bear with me) or hack ISP accounts (if indeed they're worth their salt as a 'h4x0r'). Secondly, AOL is used more often than not by idiots who think they can 'hack' (if you don't believe me, look on IRC sometime). 2. Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing? Bonzai buddy is some instant messaging crap (I think anyway, at any rate it's harmless). Comet cursor is annoying, but again, harmless, and flash is an animation package by Macromedia you moron. If we were all so paranoid about having software on our computers why should we even bother owning one? 3. Has your child asked for new hardware? OH!!! This one pisses me off to no end. Faster video cards... well dumbass, a faster video card provides better performance for 3D games, nothing more (and if you'd care to debate me on this I'd love to have a go as I've been using these 'hacking devices' for ages to design... OH MY GOD!!! video games). A larger harddrive? Well perhaps he's got some video games that eat massive amounts of space, or applications, or whatever... use some logic. AMD... this one is the worst case of shooting your mouth off I've ever read. AMD is indeed a microprocessor manufacturer, and while I don't know where they're based out of, I'm pretty sure your racism filled comment (and you're trying to instill good morals? PLEASE) is inaccurate. They make very high end processors, that beat out 'high quality american made processors' in just about every test. Intel has no 'security' to prevent hacking you idiot. The only security intel is interested in is keeping people from making their current processors faster. (Those in the know will recognize I'm referring to overclocking, but this simp couldn't possibly understand it, so I won't waste my time.) As for your sweatshop/child labour comment... show me your proof. 4. Does your child read hacking manuals? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... 'hacking manuals?' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'd be sure to pick one up if they ever existed. Twit. 5. How much time does your child spend using the computer each day? This is a reasonable concern as we all want our kids to be somewhat social and such. However, your point here again is laughable. DOS attack -> (D)enial (o)f (S)ervice attack. Where do you see command prompt there you moron? Secondly, by gaining access to a remote machine doesn't always necessitate a 'hack'. People have been known to give out accounts on remote machines. Sadly enough, there are plenty of brats out there doing this every day, but chances are they're doing it out of rebellion against a nazi parent like yourself (among other reasons I'm sure, being an asshole is high on that list too). I know if I didn't spend HOURS on my machine I'd be poorly equipped to deal with my job. You don't know what kind of a future you're ruining there by not allowing him access.. He could end up being a brilliant programmer one of these days and this article shows me that you really don't give a rat's ass about his future, but more how your child makes you look in front of others. 6. Does your son use Quake? I play Quake. Am I hacker? Hell no. I'm just someone who likes playing video games from time to time. If you equate Quake with hacking, then you really need to put your computer back in its original box and bring it back to the store, you're obviously too stupid to own one. 7. Is your son becoming argumentative and surly in his social behaviour? Uh. Dickhead, this here is a part of growing up. I went through it, so did most other people I know. Deal with it. 8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"? This just proves how little you actually know. Personally, I don't like 'lunix', but I will defend it here. First off, it's LINUX you tit. Lunix is Unix for the commodore 64. While a good many people use linux and derivatives to 'hack' machines, a lot of companys, and universities use it too. So I guess they're all hacking your gibson now eh? On top of that, if you actually did any research you'd realize it doesn't matter what operating system you choose to 'hack'. 9. Has your son radically changed his appearance? See #7 you dingbat. 10. Is your son struggling academically? ... this one baffles me with its leaps of logic. Could it be that.. HEY he's probably BORED with school??? Please tell me you're not allowed to drive, if you're this stupid I'd hate to see you behind the wheel of a car. And that concludes my rant. If you doubt my knowledge on the subject you'll be pleased to know I write software for a living. So I like to think I know a few things here and there. I'm also a father and while I don't know everything there I think a little wisdom/logic is always helpful in raising a child. People like you are and always have been what's wrong with kids. You're a nazi, your parenting 'skills' are in need of a major overhaul. You need to start educating yourself before sending out piles of useless paranoia filled garbage. If your son did turn out to be be a terror I wouldn't blame him. Parents are always quick to blame others and not themselves for what's wrong. Next time your son fucks up, look in the mirror for the person to blame. Frankly, even if this is a joke, I'm disgusted as so many other idiots will follow this as gosphel. Time for people to start thinking for themselves and RESEARCHING to understand what they're dealing with. Please do us all a favour, cancel your internet account, sell/return your computer and don't come back. It'll make the world a better place to live. --- Mike

	Re: Joke (none / 0) (#399)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:40:11 AM PST

	> This HAS to be a joke. Off course it is. But still it must have been some work to make it. Good work! >2. Are you finding programs on your computer that >you don't remember installing? >Bonzai buddy is some instant messaging crap (I >think anyway, at any rate it's harmless). Comet >cursor is annoying, but again, harmless, and >flash is an animation package by Macromedia you >moron. If we were all so paranoid about having >software on our computers why should we even >bother owning one? Eyy, most if these are BAD. They are SPYWARE(not flash though). I think IE might try to install crap like comet cursor automatically if u enters a a site like dilbertzone(Thank God there are alternative browers like Opera 6). Why would u call it paranoia, not all plp like to be in the Big Brother tv-show, and beeing peeked at. Take a look at AdAware from LavaSoft and get rid of such crap. Still a bit laughing though... DammTroll

	Re: Re: Joke (none / 0) (#7090)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Feb 24th, 2002 at 08:30:14 PM PST

	btw.. comet cursor doesn't automatically install when you visit sites that use it.. by default, IE should (and key word is: should) bring up a prompt dialog asking if you want to install something such as comet cursor. If you choose not to, then it won't install. end of story.

	what a stupid mother fucker (none / 0) (#6887)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jan 24th, 2002 at 05:59:05 AM PST

	fuckin die whoever wrote this lame ass fuckin shitty article

	What a joke! (none / 0) (#116)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:12:16 PM PST

	"You could say I'm a model parent." It can also be said that youre a model idiot. NONE of your views have ANY validity. I really do hope that you were just writing this article to get a rise out of intelligent people, instead of 'alerting' other parents. The only alerting you did was letting people know how ignorant you are, and how little thought and research went into writing this biased article.

	Wow, Some poor talk (none / 0) (#118)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:13:47 PM PST

	Well i am not into flaming just wanna say that your comments about amd are inaccurate at best, AMD's line of chips in fact are better and in most test beat intel's top of the line chip, they are not inferior, and regardless of what chip u use how does that make you a hacker? Security features?? on the chip?? where? find me info on this. So for you to speak in such a way makes one believe you work for intel, so plz dont talk w/o first doin some real research. Thanks Tom

	Filthy lies! (none / 0) (#119)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:14:47 PM PST

	This article was written by a good-hearted parent, with absolutely NO clue about computers. First off, the operating system is called Linux, not Lunix. Linux is a legal clone of the operating system UNIX, which was developed by AT&T Bell Labs, in the 1970s. It's perfectly legal and in no way suggests the user is a hacker. It's a faster, more stable operating system than any version of Windows. Mandrake and Debian are two of the thousands of Linux distributions. A DOS attack stands for Denial Of Service and has nothing to do with the "DOS prompt" on a Windows machine. As for switching ISPs, it might be because AOL is slow, while a cable modem is very fast. AMD is a company that was formed from Intel, when the US government found Intel guilty of being a monopoly, and insisted they break in two. AMD is sold everywhere and has nothing to do with hacking at all. AMD chips have tested much faster than current Intel chips, by the way. "Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash"." None of those have anything to do with hacking and are perfectly safe. Flash has to do with animation. Quake is a popular game, and hey guess what? It also has nothing to do with hacking. You should worry about hacking when you see words like "l33t", "packet", or "sub7". I feel very sorry for the child of the author of the article I'm responding to, for his father is the most ignorant person I've heard of in years. Sir, please research things before jumping to conclusions. If your son's behavior is turning bad, his grades are slipping, and he's changing his appearance, it's because he's a typical teenage boy with a not-so-typical ignorant father who doesn't understand a thing about his passion; computers. If you want to reply to me, you can Instant Message me at Panny171. I think this article had to be a joke, but I responded just in case it wasn't.

	Intel a Monopoly? (none / 0) (#2915)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 10th, 2001 at 11:03:10 PM PST

	You bloody MORON! You got your friggin' story mixed up; nitwit! Its Microsoft that was found guilty of being a monopoly, you sophomorical ARSE TAKER! Get your friggin' facts right! AMD was around before Intel was feeding off its mums tits.... FFS, what the hell are you on? I better watch out for my pocket calculator at home...... it may take over my bedroom.

	you dumass (none / 0) (#120)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:15:45 PM PST

	Comet cursor is not a hacking program you moron.. Its a program that changes your ability to change the look of your cursor. and Flash is one of the coolest things given to us. Go to this link to see what flash can do http://games.sohu.com/fightgame/fight3.swf . My gosh. Get your information straight. You have just described in your top 10 list a lot of my friends here at the university of texas. First of AOL sux to begin with and anyone who wants that ISP is stupid as is. 30 minutes on the computer.. Damn... I surf the net and play comp games for hours.. THat makes me a hacker .. NO.. Linux is the most stable OS out there.. Your son aint no hacker. Your son is a developing computer science person or has some future. Dont take that away from him because you are an ignorant dumass. You got a problem with this IM me on instant messenger if you know what that is PheonixSP . But this posting to begin with is stupid and shows complete and utmost ignorance

	I dont belive the stpuidity (none / 0) (#121)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:19:04 PM PST

	Thanks for the insight into how to determine hacking/cracking traits in my kids. I have now taken liberty in destroying all equipment powered by electricity in my household, and will be doing the same in my neighbors houses (when they are at work, they will thank me later) My kids have been shackled in the dungeon, and I will beat the hacking/cracking devil out of them daily. The fact they are 40 and 43 years old respectively and have their own kids doesnt matter, I dont want my grandchildren infected with this garbage. I recently found out they have been writing open source software in their spare time. They will come to learn my outrage at discovering this attrocity.

	Please Read (none / 0) (#125)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:23:03 PM PST

	Whoever gave you all that information is quite obviously trying to make you look retarded. None of what you said is true, and most of it is quite hilarious. As for as the Jesus Christ thing, keep your religion to yourself. My goodness how many times do people have to say shut up about your religion before you realize that they dont want to hear it. The fact that you call linux 'devil' software shows that you're moronic. The reference for DOS as being 'gaining access to someone else's command prompt' is the funniest thing i have ever heard. You people are not GROWN-UPs, nor is your attitude adult. The fact that you would consider all this information without researching any of it yourself shows how dependant you are on other people's knowledge. Sincerely, a person who knows alot more about computers than most of you people who call your self parents on the account you had sex and a wee little one popped out after 9 months.

	You saved me! (none / 0) (#126)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:23:11 PM PST

	Thanks for telling me my son was a hacker. I noticed him rebeling against what I told him to do, I thought it was a normal teen behaveour, but I guess I was wrong. I also noticed he doesn't like our AOL and made me buy DSL and keeps wanting me to buy a "bigger" computer, my guess is to do more powerful hacking. I mean who needs more than a Pentium 166? He also asked for a CD burner. I hear these things are used to steal music of CDs and light them on fire afterwards. This is also a very good hint. He also installed this Lunix. I hear people use this to steals movies of the old video disks. I think I'm partly to blame. I installed these hacker programs: Bonzi buddy, comet cursour, and Gator. These come with other programs. I think they disguise them to allow hackers access to your computer. I also saw him use this program called <a href="http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/">VNC</a> to use his computer at school. This is obviously a hacker version of the popular PCAnywhere program. He also installed a hacker program called InoculateIT. He claims it removes viruses. I think he uses it to cover his tracks. Thanks for helping me figure out my son was a hacker before it was to late.

	LOL (none / 0) (#1331)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 5th, 2001 at 07:31:25 PM PST

	LOL.....

	haha (none / 0) (#1701)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Dec 6th, 2001 at 08:55:37 PM PST

	ok this coment is pathetic you son probably didnt want aol b/c he noticed he was BEING HACKED and a pentium 166 is a slow computer there are 2ghx computers now thats over 20 times the speed of your computer you raving idiot

	call the proctologist (none / 0) (#2898)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 10th, 2001 at 10:12:07 PM PST

	jesus you are dumb man if you had any idea what you just said do a lil research online and you will find out what those programs really do bonzi buddy is just a lil cyber pet that does different thing like tell you a joke every day. comet cursor is a program that changes you cursor to something other then the damn arrow. and gator it a password storer that a lot of site use so you don't have to remember a bunch of password if you would ever pull you head out of you ass long enough to see the light of day and do alil research you might realize how stupid you really are

	re: Is your son a computer hacker. (none / 0) (#128)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:29:21 PM PST

	To whoever wrote this: You are the stupidest person on the face of the earth. You should be shot for being such a moron.

	To whomsoever it may concern.. (none / 0) (#969)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Dec 4th, 2001 at 09:33:15 AM PST

	To whoever thought this is real: You are the stupidest person on the face of the earth. You should be shot for being such a moron.

	All this information is incorrect. (none / 0) (#135)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:35:48 PM PST

	First of all I would like to say that I am 15 years old. What i would like to say to this document is that most of the information provided here is BS. First of all they spelt Lunix wrong. Its actually spelled Linux, also a couple of the things that crack me up in this article is that Linux was not created by hackers, it is the choise operating system for hackers because it is a free OS and it has lots of functionality, also you do not have to return it to the manufactor to get a new harddrive, you simply just format it or repartition it. It is hard to hack things these days because of the security measures, oh and also QUAKE IS NOT A HACKER WORLD. It is a first person shooter game designed to play over the internet, no hacking is discussed over these things. If someone did need to discuss hacking then they would probably go talk on a IRC server or somthing a little more secure. Oh yes, also i would like to mention that all the steps listed above are fiction, they have nothing todo with hacking. I dont know why u think of this being malicious when this is preparing them for the world ahead of us. If they learn howto use computers properly and efficiently then in the future they might become a well paid IT specialist or somthing.

	Jackie Chan say: (none / 0) (#141)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:49:17 PM PST

	YOU ARE ALL GARBAGE

	YOU = TEH GH3Y (none / 0) (#146)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:55:40 PM PST

	YOU ARE DUMB --- REAd WHAT A FRIGGIN COMPUTER IS -- LOOK AT IT -- HOLD IT -- BONZI IS A TAMAGATCHA -- I CANT BEAR TO FRIGGING REPLY TO THIS POST ITS SO DUMB -- WE ALL HATE U -- IF U WANNA TALK ABOUT IT EMAIL ME AT GOLKEPA@AOL.COM

	oh my. (none / 0) (#151)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:59:20 PM PST

	The sheer amount of misinformation the person who posted this article has makes me sick. Almost everything in it is horribly wrong. I am not even going to go into details. If anyone wants to contact me, namely the writer of this article, as to why they are wrong and why they need to lighten up, I can be reached on AOL Instant Messenger on the screenname "midnight opera", or I can be reached by e-mail at kamuii@graal2001. Have a nice day, misinformed lunatics.

	this is utter BS (none / 0) (#152)
	by chew on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:59:48 PM PST

	Okay, Reginald..or I can call you Reggie right? OK...now you must have been a troubled child growing up, maybe even molested...but all I know is if I were put under the scrutiny you put your kids under, I probably would have seen the light with my dads 38 special. You sir have got issues! You dont know jack shit about hacking, and you certainly dont know what your talking about when it comes to technology and bringing AMD into it. I am 21 and I respected the way I was raised by my parents. They did it by giving me freedom as well as watching what I do, but not in such an assinine way such as what you do to your kids. HAHAHAHAH I love the part when you bring spanking into it. I can just imagine you trying to spank a 17 year old for hacking. Man I would have my foot so far up your ass if you did that. HAHAHAHAHA!!! Get a life loser!

	Is Your Son a Computer Hacker? (none / 0) (#153)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:03:18 PM PST

	The person that wrote this STORY has no idea about computers or hackers. I could go through his list of reasons one by one, but why bother. I am against hackers as much as any good person should be. BUT! This guy needs to learn a little about what he is writing. FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS USE AOL! There are just too many things he wrote that are so far off base, I wouldn't know where to start. Some of the people and companies he is slamming are very good companies and make some good products and computer programs. Some of the upgrades he says are Hacker tools are improvements to a computer and make them run better even if all you want to do is read your email. The Very best thing you can do is add more RAM to your computer to improve its performance. That isn't a hacking tool any more that putting new tires on your car for the snow. I will NOT run an Intel CPU in my computer or any computer I build for a customer. AMD Runs faster and cost less money. The more I think about this STORY the more I see it's just a joke. It went over very well on my Radio show. www.OnComputers.info AlaskaJoe & Sue OnComputers@AlaskaJoe.com http://www.alaskajoe.com http://www.OnComputers.com Call the show Sunday from 10AM to 1PM Pacific Live on the Internet 1-877-281-2955 or 1-907-892-8312

	this is the best entertainment than anything... (none / 0) (#156)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:05:05 PM PST

	HBO could offer. I'd almost be angry enough to go blow some f***ing guys away in Quake if I could stop laughing!! But everyone knows the easiest way to get yourself killed is to be giggling until tears blur your vision. Ah well!! I guess I'll just go hack into someplace cool...OH WAIT...I can't do that either!!...I'm a girl ( I keep forgetting I don't have the adequate intelligence for such high end thought processes)!!!! Now whatever should I do??? Perhaps I will go into the kitchen and be barefoot and pregnant (this seems to be my only other option in life).

	by the universe... how can such a thing be here!!! (none / 0) (#1558)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Dec 6th, 2001 at 08:48:46 AM PST

	Hello, I think not even a trillion of exclamation marks cannot describe my reaction when reading this article and some of the not-pertinent replies to it. Usually I can find my words.. though English is not my native language, but now i'm in difficulty. I'll try to summarize the ideas for the few readers who would adventure reading as far on this page. First of all... grammar mistakes abound in some posts, and I doubt they're all typos. No further comment about that nice IQ ! Some mammals are more intelligent than you ! Then the religious fervor .. keep it to yourselves. I'm from an East-European country.. we've been amongst the first nations ever that became christian after the Roman Empire retreated. Don't give us speeches like these, and send fake Evangelists to tell us about religion ! Those who preach like you are fakes... tools of a greater evil than s*tan himself ! The sexist remarks ... i'm ashamed to be human.. in the third millenium there are still people like you on Earth ! You will disappear like dinosaurs did.. and nobody will remember you, not even in museums. From the beginning of human history women were neglected and thir role in society was minimal because they couldn't match men in hunting, fishing and other heavy stuff. It's not their fault for being sweet and gracious ! Now we progressed and there are other types of work, where women can compete with men, and some women take that challenge. The more, the better ! And about hacking... I started some experiments on the windows network I administer at the university, and also installed evil Lunix in dual-boot with them. I guess you'll crucify me for that! And Lunix (!) is a heresy too, right ? To those who analised his so-called 'arguments' .. good work.. no sense of repeating myself... though i think nobody noticed the name of poor Skylarov was misspelled(russian who got arrested when he came to the land of freedom ... quite self-explainatory about that freedom right?) To the girl/woman playing Quake.. try counterstrike sometime :) you might like it. To the anonymous who'd shoot the author of first posting... you don't need the moral burden of a crime on your young shoulders... the world will crush him because he's a dinosaur. I hope they'll be extinct in a few years. And some people are truely stupid. His 6 children should benefit of a kind of child protection program. He sounds paranoid and disilusional. I'm still shocked.. a part of me laughs while another prays for the future of human race. Yours, darkghost at lunixmail.org

	Complete rubbish (none / 0) (#157)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:05:41 PM PST

	Wow, i have never seen an article filled with more inaccuracies and outright speculation and broad overgeneralization as this one. I feel dumber having even read it.

	You feel dumber having read it? (none / 0) (#5010)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 24th, 2001 at 10:57:07 PM PST

	I think what you should feel dumber about is not recognizing that this whole this is a parody. That's what all the misspellings are about. Lunix is used to avoid legal issues and sound more like xerox which was the company that Microsoft much of its tech from. That's the xenix reference, another joke. Come on people, wake up.

	Thanks for your comment. (none / 0) (#6472)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 05:55:52 PM PST

	Congratulations, you understood it as well.

	Complete rubbish (none / 0) (#161)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:07:30 PM PST

	Wow, i have never seen an article filled with more inaccuracies and outright speculation and broad overgeneralization as this one. I feel dumber having even read it. For a parent to TRULY catch on if their child is a "hacker" (which this author has no clue what the meaning of the word is) you'd need to be more computer saavy than your child and as a Network Admin. I can tell you that is NOT the case as evidenced by the person writing this article who is neither computer literate, nor bothered to even do research.

	Your long words don't make you any less of a twit (none / 0) (#7076)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Feb 20th, 2002 at 03:18:44 PM PST

	It's a damn joke, it's SATIRE. Look that up in the dictionary, you know? That place where you research all those other long words to use in a vain attempt to make yourself look intelligent :p

	you are a moron (none / 0) (#162)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:09:22 PM PST

	You have obviously confused your 'raver club kid' with aol. not buying a word of it pops!

	Oh my god! I'm a HACKER! :P (none / 0) (#168)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:15:10 PM PST

	I spend like 12 hours a day in front of my computer. I listen to trance-mp3:s. I wear strange clothes. I have been running linux. I've got both the hacker cracdown and some other Shit! I must be a hacker :P Shit. You are one elite dude. How could you spot me? :P I don't know if i should take this article seriously, becuase i've been laughing my ass of the last 30 minutes. If it is serious, I feel sorry for your kids, and i feel sorry for you. There is nothing i can say that hasn't been said. But just a question. I produce techno music on my computer. Does that make me an incarnation of satan or something? :P

	my MOTHER is a hacker! (none / 0) (#2009)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Dec 8th, 2001 at 06:00:31 AM PST

	she keeps telling me I should read that boring Cryptonomicon book I bought and never finished i'm damned!

	Reality check (none / 0) (#169)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:16:11 PM PST

	Ahhh the original articke is soooo far from reality I begin to wonder what that parent did in his teen years to make his neural net misfire so badly. Linus Torvald the Linux creator was not Russian. Linux, Unix, and Solaris are usually more stable and secure then Microsoft products. Or has the rash of MSFT breaches not been noticed? It would have been nice if the author had actually researched his subject just a little bit. I find it rather disturbing that a person so obviously uninformed would actually be taken seriously by even the most inexperienced computer users. Sorry folks this is one of the biggest jokes I have seen in a long time.

	Surprises abound. (none / 0) (#170)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:17:57 PM PST

	I am first off all surprised at the amount of people who do not realize this peice as satire. If you don't know what THAT is, retake English in highschool or get a dictionary. Perhaps some of the replies to the article were satirical in nature as well, and I missed that, but the article is blatantly so. Irony, sarcasm, etc to prove a point(s) works well, as I think it does in the above article. One need only to look at the misspellings, the lack of evidence, the laughably wrong "facts" presented, the bit about Quake, and the physiological last paragraph. However, I myself could be in for a surprise if the article was written as a serious peice. If thats the case, the incredible amount of nonsense contained therein and the lack of even rudimentary understanding of computers and computer culture, is gross incompetence and ignorance at best.

	Surprises abound (none / 0) (#3684)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Dec 13th, 2001 at 07:25:30 AM PST

	Unfortunately i think this guy is serious. I've seen posts in a couple of newsgroups and it seems he does honestly believe what he is saying, either that, or he is able to carry off his act with complete sobriety and should go to Hollywood as he would win every award there if he can carry this off in person as well.

	Simply Amazing (none / 0) (#171)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:18:19 PM PST

	wow, i read that and damn...i didn't think morons like this existed. there are no published books on "how to hack". if your child wears baggy pants and carries glow sticks and pacifiers he is a druggy not a hacker. that's a whole different story. just b/c your child has an instrest in the computer doesn't mean he hacks. everything you said is just rediculous you should go kill yourself. your daughter is 17 and wearing make up and perfume...your a horrible parent you idiot if she's 17 and not doin that then there's somethin wrong. i can tell your a real hard ass too b/c if you 17 you don't need to sneak out you just need to say fuck you fuck you im leaving peace. people often want to change isp's for a faster connection. AOL sucks dick i had it twice. 56k can lick my chode. i changed to cable b/c it's 100x faster and just about the same price not b/c im a hacker. i changed the way i dressed, oh wow maybe b/c im a teenager and mommy doesn't have to dress me anymore it's called your own opinion. i think whover wrote this should stop being a hard ass.

	ROFL (none / 0) (#172)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:19:50 PM PST

	talk about not having a clue , this post is just to funny to take seriously ,theres just to many stupid remarks in the post to mention, I feel sorry for the kid who lives with such a narrow minded parent, well Im off to go and hack some stereos for mp3z on my hacker freindly ISP via telnet (sif) while i read me some willian gibson with my copy of Flash BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

	What a damn n00b (none / 0) (#4685)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 19th, 2001 at 03:20:06 PM PST

	i dont even have to say how stupid this artical is cause everyone else that posted here did it for me!! All i have to say is telnet isnt a hackin tool u dumbass, nor can u connect to shit with it without a internet connection established. I host shell accounts for people on a program called mirc, and guess what, they use telnet to log in there accounts...does that make all these people hackers too?? I end the post with 5 words...you are a fucking dumbass

	FUCKING IDIOT (none / 0) (#174)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:22:08 PM PST

	You sir, are a FOOL. No teenager would allow you to attend parties with him. Also, as a teenager interested in computers myself i obviously know more about them then you, Firstly Linux is not a computer hacking utility and neither is DOS. you must have DOS installed on your computer in order to have windows. and Perl is a computer programming tool, if your son is using this, he is very intelligent, as i belive Perl is very hard to use. I am afraid too brust your bubble for your sons sake, but that pacifier has nothing to do with hacking. When kids wear pacifiers around their necks it is because of drugs use. Pacifiers are commonly worn by "ravers" or "partiers" they go to all night dance parties that are held illegally in HUGE warhouses or clubs usually. At raves people usually use drugs such as XTC or Exctasy, Excatsy causes you to chew or grind your teeth uncontrollably, i know because i have used it. This grinding of the teeth HURTS severly, the pacifier helps so that your teeth dont hurt as much. Watch your son, when he asks to stay over at a friends house over night. When he does he will probably be wearing the pacifier around his neck. I am sorry but you sir, are one IGNORANT MISINFORMED FUCK! Stop trying to restrict your son, i am sure he is a very intelligent good kid, you sir are a dumb asshole! You have to be kidding. there is no possible way you can be THAT misinformed and ignorant. If this is a joke, you are one pathetic, lame, sad sorry for a person. GET A LIFE!

	nope (none / 0) (#219)
	by NAWL on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:47:17 PM PST

	<b>you must have DOS installed on your computer in order to have windows.</b> Obviously you have never used an NT based OS. With NT4, W2K and XP there is no underlying DOS. Don't confuse the command prompt and DOS. They are NOT one and the same. Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	Hmm ... (none / 0) (#400)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:46:27 AM PST

	The fact that you took this seriously is even more sad.

	NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (none / 0) (#175)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:22:30 PM PST

	******** ********** ****** ********** ******** OMFG (that means oh my fcking god parents) this guy has busted us. Hackers we must strike back and destroy his temple of life before he advances. I will use my new Comet Cursor and =TcK= aimbot version 1.3 to hack created by TcK Wata And TcK cartman to hack into his computer when he gets online, to tell other parents about this. We can hack into his microwave and cook speggetti WITH OUT COVERING THE CONTAINER* that outa teach him to quit messing with us hackers, he will be so owned. I hope he doesnt nail down other virtual hacking institutions like halflife or tribes. Man hackers.... peter was one of our best hackers we dont want to loose him. He always hooked me up with good porn especaily beastiality. One time peter stayed up late and used his hacker tool also known as a DIGITAL CAMERA to photograph his mom Carol naked and masturbating in the shower. Ohhhhhh man that was good shit. nothing like peters mom eh? that sir T Reginald Gibbons is one lucky man. Then we used photoshop (another major hacker tool) to cut out a picture of her tits and make it into a cursor for comet cursor on our hacking site.

	wow (none / 0) (#520)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 04:34:31 PM PST

	rofl!

	dais (none / 0) (#1646)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Dec 6th, 2001 at 05:55:26 PM PST

	1337 takeoff dude..go get him :)

	you can't b347 us! (none / 0) (#2085)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Dec 8th, 2001 at 12:15:20 PM PST

	Hahaha, w3 4r3 +#3 l33t, j00 c4/\/n07 s+0p u5. R351574/\/c3 15 fu71L3. All j00r b4s3 4r3 b3l0n6 t0 us. ... ... p373\|2's l0ss w1LL n0t g0 unpu/\/15h3d. 4ll j00 3v1L "T Reginald Gibbons" supp0r73rs w1LL p3r15h. Hats off to peter's pr0n! The W4R h4s B36Un! P.S. w3 4r3 "crackers" n0t "hackers" ... your computers are now in danger! Beware of electronic music, it will make your ears bleed!

	O, yes! (none / 0) (#3309)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 12th, 2001 at 12:13:47 AM PST

	This photo was really amazing! Our entire KGB Hacking Department in Siberia had a fun with it. Thank you for sending this photos to Red Army. You, without all doubts, will be promoted soon to Senior Hacker of KGB!

	Sad Sad Sad (none / 0) (#177)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:24:12 PM PST

	Do you know what this is? Sad fucking shit is what it is. The writer of that artical is a complete fucking idiot, and should have his\her children taken from them. So they have an enjoyable childhood. Sorry, but you my friend are a fuckin moron. Go read up. or drop dead. All that information is ssoooo outta whack. Fuck off you sorry peice of shit. Go let your kids have a life

	lmfao this must be a joke (none / 0) (#179)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:24:55 PM PST

	Frist off the term for it is not Hacker but "CRACKER". I mean who gives a shit if their son is a hacker? Maybe he'll grow up to be bill gates and take care of his parents. A cracker is someone who breaks into computers illegaly.. And there is absolutely no signs of it, crackers live 2 lives :P Funny post tho lol -SI (Secret Intruder)

	Misinformation (none / 0) (#2751)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 10th, 2001 at 04:22:36 PM PST

	Sorry, but It hink you have some wrong definitions here. A cracker is someone who "cracks" commercial softwares to make htem available to everyone without paying. They're experts at destroying protections which took days to make in a matter of hours, even minutes. Most crackers were once hackers before, but that's not really revelent.

	have u had your head examined recently? (none / 0) (#182)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:29:13 PM PST

	Not a single word you said in there is true. People that try to spend lies like you, probably for some religious crusade, make me sick. ·Changing ISP, probably wants a fast internet connection, faster is always better. ·"Comet Cursor" "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash" are no where near hacking programs. Flash is a very useful program to know how to use (future career potential) ·Those are not hacking manuals, I doubt you could even find a store with a true "hacking manual" ·Time is BS, no such thing as DOSing. He/she could easlily be creating a personal website, chatting with friends are the world, or whatnot. ·There is no consumer virtual reality game out there. Quake is just a game, played by millions of people. ·Change in personality = TEENAGERS ARE LIKE THAT!! ·first off, its "Linux" not "Lunix" - This was created by a college student for a class in Europe. Its a free program for ANYBODY to use. ·Change in apperance = TEENAGE YEARS AGAIN FOLKS!! ·This last one is total BS again How long did it take you to create these lies? Computers are now and forever here, the more children know about and how to use them, the better off they are in their future.

	reasearch (none / 0) (#2814)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 10th, 2001 at 06:32:29 PM PST

	Linux was originaly the joint product of the GNU project (The bare minimum tools required for a computer to function. Period.) and Linus Torvalis (Along with the help of god knows how many other people) It wasn't a school project either, one day he just decided to write an alternative to the UNIX kernel and learn some C/++ along the way. After a short while he got stuck and posted a now-famous message on a Usenet group asking for help. He's from Finland, BTW...

	RE:have u had your head examined recently? (none / 0) (#4079)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Dec 15th, 2001 at 04:19:09 AM PST

	Ummm right i dont think you get that this is a JOKE! aghh and some people are so self righteous and thin they know all even if it is a joke and being stupid! OF course people know Flash isnt for ahcking infact flash is one of the safest examples of software avilable due to its wide spread implementation on the net. Also there is such a thing as DOSing DOS stands for Denial Of Service and has been carried out hundreds of times buy many groups eg. http://www.2600.com http://www.wiretapped.com most reciently it recieved media coverage for shutting down amazon.com and yahoo for around 8 hours because of the increased traffic! -thats all. Si-rop-tic

	WTH?! (none / 0) (#5175)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Dec 29th, 2001 at 11:04:01 AM PST

	Okay -- Im sooo totally in league here with this guy ... all teenagers between the ages of 13-17 are involved of those activities. I think I have traced the source of this man's anger. He thinks he is a born again Christian spreading 'the word.' Now no offense is offered to any Christians, Muslims, Jews anyone of any religious faith. I respect your right to believe what you desire. But that is no grounds to attempt to spread it. The people you speak above in the article are not destined to your "damned" road, they just desire to be involved and immersed in the technology that dominates this society. It would be a considerable waste of time to reiterate what the other Anonymous reader said -- but he is speaking the truth there sir. Good night and I wish you a great future of bitchin' for you.

	Faster is NOT.... (none / 0) (#7139)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Mar 7th, 2002 at 08:56:16 AM PST

	...always better, if you think it is you obviously have never gotten laid...

	OMFG (none / 0) (#183)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:31:58 PM PST

	Hey, you know what? If you're such a an expert on Crackers, why dont you STFU and RTFM before you go posting this bullshit! I thought I had seen worse but I guess not! Listen, I'm 17 and...well never mind....lets just say that you have about as much knowlegde about cracking (and teenage social habits) as Oprah does about weight loss.......

	Confession of a Teenage hax0r (none / 0) (#184)
	by nx01 on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:35:32 PM PST

	Ah, I remember it well. I think it was about 1993, though it could have been earlier -- it's all kind of running together at this point. The three of us -- ThePope (a blatently blasphemous "nick"), nights3ige, and I -- were all sitting around at the family 386SX/16. We were all about 12 years old. At this point, we were (rightly so) pretty damn impressed with the computer, but we wanted to do more. We wanted to hack. We had picked up a copy of "Computer Shopper", a typical hacker magazine, and in the very end there was a list of "BBS" services. "BBS" means Bulletin Board where naked pics of babes and lots of war3z are traded. We logged on, and soon we were downloading "shareware" software using the illicit "XModem-CRC" program. We also got deep into "GIFz" which mainly consisted of 256 color pornography. To make sure nobody just "leeched", many of the "BBS" services made sure you uploaded something. Many times, this was war3z or pornography. And so the cycle repeats itself. Eventually, we went from the war3zing into using the tool "QBasic" to make viruses. I remember doing some serious shit with that -- one did stuff like print out "ALL YOUR FILES WERE JUST DELETED HA HA HA HA!!!" and then make the screen light up different colors. We were totally "bad" and "radical" -- at least to the hacker scene. Of course, then we were caught. My parents came in one day and caught me reading through a "BBS". I had to explain to them what "l33t" speak was, and why the screen was lit up with a poor-quality ANSI picture of Madonna touching herself "down there". They soon realized that the "BBS" "hacker" scene was what had been drawing me away from my friends, my family, my church -- my life. They immediately trashed the computer and enrolled me in the "youth group" at a local church. I can honestly look back and say this was the best decision my parents ever made. Since then, I have blossomed into a fine young man who just uses computers for legal purposes, like checking email, reading good Christian material, and posting to adequacy.org. I was fortunate enough to have parents who cared. I can only pray for those kids whose parents don't know enough about hacking. The road it leads our youth is a damning one. "Every time I look at the X window system, it's so fucking stupid; and part of me feels responsible for the worst parts of it." -- James Gosling

	Wait (none / 0) (#215)
	by NAWL on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:41:54 PM PST

	Aren't you the same guy who went on about how he coded the USB code for Linux back in 1989? If so please get your timelines straight. Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	Wait (none / 0) (#216)
	by NAWL on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:42:58 PM PST

	Aren't you the same guy who went on about how he coded the USB code for Linux back in 1989? If so please get your timelines straight. Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	Nope. Sorry. (none / 0) (#226)
	by nx01 on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:59:01 PM PST

	Aren't you the same guy who went on about how he coded the USB code for Linux back in 1989? No. I vaguely remember somebody making a comment like that, but it wasn't me. My hacking problem lasted for about three weeks in 1993, and I haven't looked back since. And please. Press "Post" only once. Double (or triple, as the case may be) posting just makes you look like a fool. HTH HAND :) "Every time I look at the X window system, it's so fucking stupid; and part of me feels responsible for the worst parts of it." -- James Gosling

	Get Your Facts Straight (none / 0) (#186)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:36:40 PM PST

	I have no problem with you monitoring your kids. You have the right to do what you want as a parent. But the supposed "facts" that you give are complete and utter bullshit. You need to get your facts straight before you run your mouth. Let's look at your "Top 10" list. This is the biggest peice of trash I've ever seen. 1. Changing ISPs... in that case every single NORMAL person on the planet with a computer can be considered a hacker. People change ISPs to access information and knowledge faster. If you don't want your children to learn at the fastest rate possible, then you sir or maddam are a bad parent. 2. Programs... umm... alright... Comet Cursor is a program that lets you change the look of your cursor on the screen. It's a waste of space, but it's not a hacking program. Flash is a great program for someone wanting to get into animation. Again, if your son wants to learn about animation and you are trying to limit him, then you are a bad parent. 3. Hardware... of course you want new hardware. Again, this is a case of accessing information faster. Hmm... I wonder why perfectly good and legal companies make faster hardware... is it illegal? If it is then these corporations that you back up are just as bad as your version of a "hacker." 4. Hacking manuals... these are in no way, shape, or form hacking manuals. "Neuromancer" is a great book... it revolutionized the science fiction world in 1984 when with a genre known as "cyberpunk." It was in no way a bad thing. These "manuals" as you call them are books that are the backbone of literature today. People like you scare me are like the firemen described in "Fahrenheit 451." 5. Time on the computer... DOS stands for Disk Operating System. It is Microsoft's original OS. It is the backbone of the computer system. If you don't like it then try and delete it. Restart your computer and post your results. 6. Quake... Quake is a video game. Nothing more... nothing less. It was a revolutional game and, while it does contain violence, does not create a computer hacker. 7. Argumentative... when you get in people's face like that, they have every right to be argumentative. Maybe you do need to "back off" as he said. 8. "Lunix"... umm... try LINUX... it and the other OSs you listed are simply other alternatives to the common Windows. If you watch the news, Microsoft is currently on trial for being a monopoly. I don't see anyone that back up these other OSs on trial for anything. They display different ways for a person to interact with their computer. 9. Changed appearance... go to your son's school. Look at everyone and call them "hackers." 10. Academics... hackers are some of the most intelligent people on the planet. Do you know how much concentration it takes to do these things. A hacker must be able to program, and understand almost every aspect of a computer. Ask any person with good knowledge of a computer how intelligent a hacker is, and you may be suprised at their response. A hacker is someone who seeks information... why oh why would they struggle in school. Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering." "Damn kids. They're all alike." But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him? I am a hacker, enter my world. Mine is a world that begins with school. I'm smarter than most of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me. "Damn underachiever. They're all alike." I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head." "Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike." I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me, or feels threatened by me, or thinks I'm a smart ass, or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here. Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike. And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is found. "This is it... this is where I belong..." I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all... Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike... You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert. This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals. Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me for. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike. -Hacker's Manifesto

	hackers vs. script kiddies (none / 0) (#2742)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 10th, 2001 at 04:05:05 PM PST

	"10. Academics... hackers are some of the most intelligent people on the planet. Do you know how much concentration it takes to do these things. A hacker must be able to program, and understand almost every aspect of a computer. Ask any person with good knowledge of a computer how intelligent a hacker is, and you may be suprised at their response. A hacker is someone who seeks information... why oh why would they struggle in school." Most of the kids you hear about in the news aren't hackers, they're script kiddies. A hacker makes thier own tools, and does thier own work, they find thier own security holes and exploit them. These pretty much fall into two catagories: White hats and black hats. White hats get into thier/thier employer's computers so system flaws can be fixed, they're the good guys. Black hats break into other people's computers maliciously (Usually for profit), they're the bad guys. A script kiddy takes the tools made by hackers, the flaws found by hackers, and the instructions written by hackers, and break into other systems. They're no-skilled parasitic blights on the face of hacking, they are the anarchists. Analogy - hacking as painting: Hackers paint The Scream, the Mona Lisa, and such. Script kiddies paint by numbers. To the script kiddies of the world: You're not 3133+, you're pathetic. You don't have any clue what you're doing, and you're screaming it to the world.

	You Sad Bastard (none / 0) (#4956)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 23rd, 2001 at 06:18:54 PM PST

	Did you manage to use your 50 free hours on AOhell to get this post typed ? Ever heard of freeserve ? Ok Bye

	heh (none / 0) (#5180)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Dec 29th, 2001 at 12:40:23 PM PST

	well put.

	Amen to that (none / 0) (#5360)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 2nd, 2002 at 12:59:19 PM PST

	Am I male or female? am I black or white? Was I born in the US or abroad? AM I fat or muscled? It does not matter in this world. Kitsune

	A real hacking manual (none / 0) (#7124)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Mar 5th, 2002 at 05:45:34 PM PST

	How to steal this computer book is the only "I quote" Hacking Manual out there and it tells you nothing... and anyone who did read it isn't really a hacker points to self

	LOL (none / 0) (#189)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:41:15 PM PST

	ROFLMAO

	Holy crap! (none / 0) (#191)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:45:01 PM PST

	Okay ... I found this article early this morning (around 11 or so) and I thought it was the funniest damn thing I'd read all week. Then I came back tonight, and all you guys are the damn punchline :) I would even go so far as to say that this is the greatest piece of satire I've personally read since Swift's "A Modest Proposal," and I think all you people that are ranting and raving should take a good hard look at what he's saying, and investigate a little more closely before you fly off the handle. I must admit, I was buying into the article for a little bit, but the further into it I got, the more clear it became. That's the brilliance of it. A few examples: 1. Point 5's link to "law" 2. The link on the right side of the page to "internet idiocy" 3. Hacking into someone's stereo 4. "Torovoltos," the mad Russian hacker. And the list goes on. My friends, you have been bamboozled. :) -Bobo

	\|)00\|\/\|3\|) (none / 0) (#1611)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Dec 6th, 2001 at 02:52:24 PM PST

	What does it say about - well, America, I imagine most of those comments were posted from - that something like this can be taken seriously? Did nobody find the link to spanking.com a little out of character? I can see how the "serious" attempts at misinformation so often succeed, though, when the people reading them are so willing to take things at face value. Contention.

	I can't believe you people think this is real!!! (none / 0) (#1873)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Dec 7th, 2001 at 10:08:28 AM PST

	Finally, somebody gets it. I am also surprised at how many people think this is real. There is a link to a picture of a house when he says "house" for god's sake. Haahaa, this article is great. Not quite as good as eating irish babies, but pretty good. Anyone who doesn't get what I mean about babies, by the way, should seach on the Internet for "A Modest Proposal" by Johnathan Swift. Like Bobo said, its pretty much the same thing as this. ;o) Now, I'm gonna go hack into pine and read my email. "w00t" and soforth. ~Sean

	Feh. (none / 0) (#2363)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 9th, 2001 at 01:35:17 PM PST

	Mmm, I liked Swift's "A Modest Proposal". ^_^ One thing. I prefer linux, if only because I don't know how to use the rest of the unix-based OS. -_- Oh, wait, one more. Scrolling, scrolling.. scrolls down Whoever made the asshole comment about Koreans can fuck off. Thank you. ^_^

	Spot on! (none / 0) (#4668)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 19th, 2001 at 12:47:00 PM PST

	Absolutely, it's an excellently written piece, but it's no great surprise that it sucked in so many people who have an obvious interest in the subject matter.

	WTF? (none / 0) (#197)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 07:58:44 PM PST

	Okay First. Linux , Unix , ect. are not hacking OS its a better os than Windows. Games? hacking ? what ? cant kids have fun anymore? would you rather have them drink and do drugs ? if i was a parent i would let them stay at home and learn about computers and programing and other varrious things, i have a few firends that program and they are making over 25,000 for making a webpage. and getting new hd? or no proc. chip ? hacking ? how is this. if you buy a computer one month, that next month your computer is out of date. i just build a new computer 1.2Ghz amd Thunderbird, Geforce 2 MX, 768 Mb of Sdram. Now they have like 1.7 Ghz and ddr ram. so asking for new hardwhere isnt "Hacking" Another thing Channging ISP's If you have AOL, well aol sucks they send you spam. and they are slow i never once connected at 5.6k/s it was allways 4.8k/b, Getting DSL, Cable isnt a bad thing either, it doesn use your phone line (dsl does but not "Tieing" it up) and they are on 24/7 There are diffrent views of hacking one could be Mp3/Warez Hacking Webpage Hacking DOSing r00ting Boxes but the real hackers are the poeple who hack into the goverentment boxes and Learn Most hackers are not doing this because they want to most want to Learn about things, and other thing is, maby some one pissed him/her off (Her = girl hackers ? i never seen any of these, if you are one email me :-) ) But anways if you son asks for a new hd, or a better isp why dont you do it, it will help him in his learning. most kids who spend more than 8hrs a day on the computer will become your IT , Tech support and other computer related jobs. Like what iam going to be doing. well if u wana talk about more of this email me i will be happy fully talk about what your SON/Daughter is doing nbitzan@qwest.net Nick Bitzan

	Jesus makes a damn good turkey sandwich! (none / 0) (#205)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:08:14 PM PST

	Greetings, foolish mortals. My name is Lucifer. Your pathetic article, filled with misinformation concerning my children, Bob and Linda, has displeased me greatly. Being the vengeful ruler of Hell that I am, I have used my "31337" c64 box equipped with the VERY LATEST version of Lunix and written the most malicious computer virus ever. I have combined it with this post, and it has infected the central server at adequacy.org In turn, all computers connected to it have been infected. By visiting this site, you have also unknowingly downloaded this virus. Don't bother running any anti-viral software. The little Imp which spawns with every transfer of this virus has already entered your mind. Nobody can save you now. Yes, I have your children as well. Your brainwaves have transmitted the infection to them. My work here is done. I think I'll go play some Quake.

	Lunix and the devil (none / 0) (#574)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 06:14:20 PM PST

	LMAO This is the funniest crap i have read in a long time congrats to the author ROTFL Steph

	WOO (none / 0) (#5236)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 30th, 2001 at 07:38:33 PM PST

	HAHAH YOU GO BABY!!! SMOKE SOME CHRISTIANS!!!!! w00000t!!!!

	Rediculous (none / 0) (#208)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:28:00 PM PST

	In my opinion, I think you should re-do the whole forum, talk about something that really matters. Its like a 1000000:1 that you're son/daughter knows how to hack...I'm a 17 year old and I do the network security at a web hosting company, most of these bogus hacker kiddies can't really hack, they probably use trojans and virus creators and all this moronic stuff, but thats trivial compared to a formally educated (university) individual who knows how to 1) Program 2) Understand how the system works 3) Understands the platform in which they wish to hack. Most of these trivial issues like winnuke and the such were and are fixed easily...however, a major flaw like the issue with Code Red, Code Blue and Nimda were by people who know what they're doing. BTW, the creator of those viruses were not even from the United States...funny? No offense, this forum is rediculous. You all must be very insecure, go see a psychologist about being paranoid. Heck, even a therapist :)

	*Awwww pinches cheek* so cute!** (none / 0) (#209)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:31:34 PM PST

	Silly sheep (christians). Thank you, I, literally, spent the last 45 minutes of my life reading the article and every reply to it. I laughed, I cried from laughing, and then I laughed some more. I mean....wow. They could read all of that stuff out loud, in a monotone, on comedy central and get rave reviews

	Please, research things (none / 0) (#210)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:34:39 PM PST

	At least 90% of your information is completely, uttlerly incorrect. These are indisputable facts. If you can find any site to support your information besides your illogical, bigoted selves, please post links. Are you simply too paranoid to trust the information on the internet, so you make it up in your head? Please, clarify how you could possibly post such an uninformed report for people who know nothing on the subject to be mislead by?

	Please let this be a joke! (none / 0) (#214)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:40:52 PM PST

	First of all this is the slowest loading BBS i have ever visited. Second of all im no saint or master of the english language but the use of profanity here is rediculous, buy a dictionary for goodness sake or make something up, no one will notice here. Third i must be bored sitting here waiting for this to load. Ok enough crying time to get down to business(ok i admit its really more crying:). I can only hope this article is satire, while reading it i kept waiting for the punchline. If the guy who posted this is serious i can only imagine what life is like for his "hacker:)" teenagers. Would someone write to AMD and Mandrake about the slander? Everything is made in sweatshops, thats how best buy stays in business. I suggest the author learn about google.com and research his project. Its almost as bad as I, cringley poorly rewriting gibsons rants.

	boobs. (1.00 / 2) (#221)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:53:35 PM PST

	well, i have a lot to say about your article. but, picking thru bits and pieces of the other articles, what i have to say has already been said. (yes, some of you are actually smart, but some of u.. where the hell are u getting this?).

	boobs. A poem by anonymous. (5.00 / 1) (#260)
	by elenchos on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 09:58:57 PM PST

	boobs. A poem by anonymous. Well, I have a lot to say about [The Western literary cannon.] But, picking thru bits And pieces of the other [books,] What I have to say has Already been said. (Yes, some of you are actually smart, But some of you... where the hell Are you getting this?). Discuss. I do, I do, I do --Bikini Kill

	Disgusted. (none / 0) (#222)
	by nivek on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:54:38 PM PST

	I am thoroughly disgusted with the idiocy of this article. First of all, where do you get off telling people that PERL is a bad thing? Perl probably runs part of this website. Second, what in the hell is Lunix? Last time I checked it was Linux, and perfectly legal. Another thing, I consider myself to be a hacker in the sense that I am computer and internet-savy. Does this mean I like to poke around in places I'm not supposed to? Not unless it is of necessary importance. This kind of spread in ignorance is causing the downfall of the image of "hackers". Might want to look up the definition in a REAL dictionary, by the way, as you have failed to grasp it. I sincerely hope this article was a joke.

	J00 are silly people (none / 0) (#223)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 08:55:21 PM PST

	Does anyone realize the person making this was being sarcastic? Oi! Get a life you people, this person was obviously making a joke -- one which I found quite amusing! Read between the lines, folks!

	Hello, My name is 'l33th4x0r' (aka CreQ/proflexin) (0.50 / 2) (#232)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 09:20:12 PM PST

	Ok, let's start with the basics Linux - Operating system that IS legal, and not barely, it is more than legal, many government computers run Linux or Unix. Quake - Is the safest thing your kid can do on the computer, nobody knows anything on quake. Switching ISPs - Did you ever think your son might want to switch from AOL to @home cable because he can play his safe game of 'h4xx0r quake' with a decent ping? The Article - The article you posted shows that you are obviously ignorant, If you are going to post a large article on a site, you might want to do a little research and find out what you are going on and on about is right. I kind of liked your article though, I have not had that much fun reading anything in my life. Hackers have usually: Clean cut clothing styles Respect No bad intentions The intelligence to write an article on something that they may know about Now that I have said what I believe, I also must inform you, I am from california, and I am only twelve. If I were your son I would see about putting you in some kind of after-work tutoring program. Have a -nice- day.

	*sigh* (none / 0) (#6491)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 09:57:57 PM PST

	Under 18 and lives in California, thats 2 strikes against your intellegence...

	That is HILARIOUS (0.50 / 2) (#251)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 09:48:11 PM PST

	Ive been working in the computer repair field for 4 years and never once have I seen anything like this. LAF OMFG ROFLMAO@ the retard that wrote this. Oh well, good for a laugh.

	not a hacker (0.50 / 2) (#254)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 09:54:45 PM PST

	are you retarded? your son is not a hacker, he is a computer geek. he is NOT hacking. learn about the internet before you put stupid posts up.

	AMD is a third-world based company ??? ROTFL (0.50 / 2) (#261)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 09:59:46 PM PST

	AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips.???? WHO SAID THIS?? what an idiot

	AMD (none / 0) (#6217)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Jan 13th, 2002 at 02:48:24 PM PST

	AMD is an American Company, look at AMD.COM and read it by yourself. It's headquater ist in Sunnyvale, California.

	YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT (0.50 / 2) (#262)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:02:00 PM PST

	You know, you are a moron, you have no idea what you are talking about, and you are not an ideal parrent, you are an ass, you haven't the foggiest idea how to raise a kid.your kids are losers, and your son is dumb, but its not his fault, because you don't let him grow you dont even know what a hacker is P.S. Comet cursor is a company which allows web pages to customize their cursors, and is based around the kalamazoo area,(sounds like an evil company to me) RETARD

	he he - I guess you haven't seen the joke? (none / 0) (#6039)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jan 12th, 2002 at 06:12:54 AM PST

	The article is a joke... What part of you can't understand this?

	this is a joke (none / 0) (#6509)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 16th, 2002 at 06:47:59 AM PST

	Joke or no joke, it is surely meant to get this type of response? Or why else post it? So shut your mouth you stupid twat! Let the people give their views. At least a few people have them unlie you and your sorry ass!

	this is a joke (none / 0) (#6510)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 16th, 2002 at 06:48:19 AM PST

	Joke or no joke, it is surely meant to get this type of response? Or why else post it? So shut your mouth you stupid twat! Let the people give their views. At least a few people have them unlike you and your sorry ass!

	You MUST be an IDIOT! (0.50 / 2) (#263)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:03:38 PM PST

	Seriously, i dont think i have laughed this much in a long time. You dont know a shit what ur talking about. Its like listening to 5 year old kid talk about politics. no actually, its worse.

	A guy from finland... (0.50 / 2) (#265)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:05:13 PM PST

	I'm just a 16 year old guy from finland. My friend found this site and we have laughed to this same case almost every day. It is so dumb that i haven't ever seen anything so stupid. Btw. linux's inventor is Linus Torvalds, from Finland. And hey, come on, you can't be SO stupid that you really wrote those kind of things about quake? :D Quake:s and half-life are all awesome GAMES. I repeat GAMES. They are just for fun. Eh, you're just dumb as i imagined... I think that your all children hates you when they realize what they have lost for life, thanks to you.. Ya don't have very bright future.

	Wrong, wrong (0.50 / 2) (#266)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:05:45 PM PST

	This article is so full of errors it is not even funny. You said you did research? What did you read because everything you said is wrong. First off, the fact that you monitor everything your kids do is bad. I guess you just don't trust them, because if you had taught them correctly, you would be able to trust that they would make the proper decisions on their own. And the fact that you have 6 kids is suspect. You also mentioned a 17 year old girl with make-up and perfume as something to be on the watch for. Get with the modern days here, girls wear make-up and perfume, it doesn't make them bad people. Now on to your "hacking" manual. All you accomplished is to confuse parents. Programming with Perl is not a hacking book. It tells you how to program...in...Perl... Limiting computer use to 45 minutes a day is laughable, anyone who uses a computer on a regular basis knows you need much more than 45 minutes to get anything done. Linux is not illegal, it is a valid OS for computers. Telnet is not a hacking program, it is a legitamate program used, in one instance, to configure routers. You can't break into someones stereo with an mp3 program. MP3 is not even a program, it is a way to compress data so that music takes up less space on a harddrive but retains good sound quality. Also, a hacker doesn't need a faster video card to hack. Like someone else said, real hackers use text based programs like DOS that a slow computer can easily run. AMD is not an illegal knockoff company that uses sweatshops, that is just wrong. Many computers you can buy at stores such as CompUSA, Best Buy and Circuit City offer computers with AMD chips. You said "Lunix" can not be removed from a harddrive without damaging the surface of the harddrive? That is just dead wrong. You just boot up in dos and format the harddrive. Anything can be deleted off of a computer and it doesn't damage the actual surface of the harddrive. Computer radiation? That is funny. If that was a serious problem, we would have heard about it on valid news sources such as CNN, MSNBC, Time Magazine, Newsweek or some other news organization. Since we haven't, and since there are NO stories of computer radiation, it is obvious that you are dead wrong. This article is sooo wrong. Oh, yeah, I can't wait until your kids go to University, if you even let them, because I bet they will go wild because they don't have you looking over their shoulder all the time and because they will have so much freedom. This article sucked.

	Good Satire... Parents Like This Must Be Stopped (0.50 / 2) (#269)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:10:50 PM PST

	Parents like this are very good at producing poorly educated, mindless drones. Children with this kind of raising are helpless at thinking for themselves and have no understanding of responsibility whatsoever. Without freedom to learn who they are, what they like, or where their interests may lie, they will develop no sense of direction. Without direction, they'll never truly grow outside their limited cages. They will likely become dregs of society, or at the very least, spend their lives aimlessly perpetuating these sad, restrictive ideals. Sadly, there really are parents (who, obviously, have reproduced) out there who believe these actions are the best way of raising children. They must be stopped. All they do is manufacture "Good Citizens" for our government and other oppressive establishments to come. Initially in my life, I found myself under this kind of parenting. My salvation came from my discovery of technical aptitude. The computer hacking community saved me from life a meaningless life of silly absurdities. It wasn't until my introduction to the BBS Scene and subsequently the Internet that my mind truly began to expand and acquire new viewpoints. Certainly, I've dealt with the suffering of confusion and uncertainty, but I'd take that over ignorance any day. The choice to choose ignorance or principle will be offered to my children one day.

	Am I a Hacker?! (0.50 / 2) (#270)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:11:29 PM PST

	OMG! I think I'm a hacker!?! I play quake, I use lunix, i own the movie "Hackers", I dress with baggy clothing, and no too long ago my hair was a strange colour. What ever shall I do? please help me, i don't want to be an illegal hacker! I did bad in math and chemistry, and I asked my daddy to switch me to a more hacker-friendly isp, now on home.net because I was told to by an 3l33t guy on irc room called #h4ck3rZ! will someone please help me?

	[ThC] USCREAM420 (none / 0) (#1101)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Dec 4th, 2001 at 09:26:57 PM PST

	...It's okay, just calm down. U can fix all this, ur life is not yet over... YES, we can save u. just stop using computers. no u've FTP'ed to too many places, ur a real hardcore hacker. U've even started to use those numb3rs inst3ad of l3tt3rs... I think its all over fer ya... sorry ... unless u become amish and stop using all electrical devices.... IF I EVER SEE THE GUY WHO WROTE THIS SHIT.... I SWEAR THE FUCKING GOD, I WILL TAKE A HOT STEAMER RIGHT ON HIS FOREHEAD.... A BIG FUCK YOU TO HOSE THAT STAND BEHIND THIS GUY <<<<FUCK YOU>>>>> IGNORANT BASTARDS.... i dont usually use naughty language... but come on ...

	YES (none / 0) (#6425)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 09:08:24 AM PST

	i can help you. first stop playing quake witch is violent and stupid, u should play RTCW where u can kill nazi (like the one who writes this shit) if you have no money you can easily find some ftp (i won t give u mine) or if ur computer isn t good enough for this game just download ra3, it s free and it the same as quake but better in internet gaming coz l33t r playing. (if you think it still too violent just buy the last disney game because there no ftp withit) then stop using linux it s for c0wb0yz, unix ou freebsd are better. but keep windows xp for ur dad with those fuckin' gay colors. moreover he can t see if you install "illegal" program (just the use of these program is illegal) and you ll pass for a good american (stupid ?) boy. honestly in france about 90% of the young user are more hacker than the boy this typ and the parent agree coz they have a lot of good progam for free :) (french have never been honest and it better like this, it s funier :p) for the movie "hackers" i can do nothing, maybe you should watch better movie like "dancer in the dark" or "in the mood for love" and ur parent will think you are intelligent and let u do everything u want. change ur clothes too, u mustn t look antisocial, because the hackers always have the same look. it the way we can now know they re hackers... a man well dressed can t be a hacker. if u follow all my advise you will no longer appear as a illegal hacker and you will be a perfect innocent american boy.

	69 (0.50 / 2) (#271)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:13:25 PM PST

	its fathers like that that turn their sons into queers. his kid was a 31337 hax0r and was down the the ski11z. its not true that all hackers do poorly in academics. example: bill gates the father needs to get his n00b ass off of aol and get a real hax0r isp. "i go to parties and make sure there is no alcohol" that was the funniest thing i have ever heard in my life. those kids must have gotten the shit kicked outta them. pZ ouT hax0rs -Mr. R

	this is the funniest thing i ever read go #mapcoe (0.50 / 2) (#274)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:17:16 PM PST

	if this is a joke, it did its job.. cause it made me laugh... if it isnt... then this person has some really bad problems... cause that would make everyone i know a hacker... lets see if i am shal we? 1. I dont use AOL, because its slow and for idiots that wanna pay 21 bucks a month for dialup or what ever they charge you... 2. I know how to take programs off the add and remove programs menu WITHOUT taking them off the hardisk... and i have Flash installed... 3. "faster" video card to help hacking huh? can someone tell me what vid card cant run netbus? plz... this is just sad... AMD is a dead giveaway? yeah.. who would want a cpu that cost over half the price that can do the same if not more... thats unamerican :/... (note the sarcasim) 4. nope.. clean there... 5. 8 hours? thats it?... well... i normaly double that... and thats on a slow day :) 6. quake eh? what are we running off of.. a 486?... we are talking Ghost Recon, Return to Castle Wolfstein, Counter-Strike (shudder), Project IGI, Diablo II and other titles like Carmageddon 3.... guess thats a hit... 7. People like make me angry... so i guess yeah... i wouldnt listen to your crap either... 8. Naw, i use a heavly modified ver of WindowsME (i dont wanna hear a comment on that.. :P) 9. naw, still wearing all black and camo like ive been doing for years... 10. meh, im out of school.. more time to hack i guess.... sooo in other words... i must be a "l337" hacker because as a magic 8ball says "all signs lead to yes"... so watch your backdoors people cause there is another hacker on the loose

	YOU ARE AN IDIOT by PHiNK (0.50 / 2) (#277)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:25:09 PM PST

	I guess it goes to show that anyone can have a message board and put their ignorant views out there for everyone to read. I think if this is your idea of a HACKER, then you've obviously got to have you head checked. I think you are just using the wrong word. The difference between what was just mentioned above and whas true, your son is just obvously a geek. Geeks are those who devote hours of their time to make themselves "seem" important. Hackers on the other hand, arent known as hackers. They do spend time on their computers, but in many ways dont shut out the real world. To separate the geeks from the hackers, look around hackers are among you. I stand before you to show that I maybe a hacker, once a geek. But the difference in my life now is that you would never know it unless you asked me a question about possibly writing a shell script or being able to hop networks in order to gain access into somewhere that spoofs ip's of unwanted guests. If you are a hacker, you dont want anyone to know it. You dont want anyone to know you drive around finding backdoors to 802.11b networks and destroy all company data. But a geek would let everyone know, "I've got this new FTP program and it'll search common names for user's and passwords and i can download the updates to Counterstrike before anyone else does..." While wearing a t-shirt that might say im a "31337 h4xor!" Please, tell your son to play with barbie dolls, because id not make as much fun of him then... Thanks for your time.. PHiNK <--- Doesnt use Bonzi Buddy...

	misguided uninformed parent is a buffoon (0.50 / 2) (#282)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:43:34 PM PST

	What the hell are you thinking? this article sounds more like a joke from BBspot or the rantings of someone who is so tragically uninformed that it makes baby jesus cry. If you are a parent reading this and you believe any part of this moronic ranting than you should be locked away for gross incompetence. 1. AOL. AOL is not a premiere ISP, they are THE ISP for people who want to get on the internet with a minimum amount of actuall knowledge of the internet. People who know what they are doing shun AOL in favor of other ISPs which are less like the internet with training wheels. 2. Comet cursor, Bonzi Buddy, and Flash are not hacker programs. They are internet add ons. Next time you think you have a hacker program I suggest you visit www.google.com and actually verify what these programs do by searching for the name of the program. Comet Cursor allows websites to use animated mouse cursors, Bonzi buddy is made by Microsoft and is a little animated monkey / internet helper app, and flash is made by macromedia and allows you to view simple animations in web pages. All legitimate programs from legitimate companies. Not hacking evidence. 3. Intel and AMD are both american chip companies that both make quality processors. This idea that one CPU is more hacker freindly is moronic in the extreme. Most computer enthusiasts prefer AMD because their chips are cheaper and faster than intel processors. No CPU is churned out in some sort of sweat shop, where do you get this crap. Chips are manufactured in high tech factories in clean rooms where sweat would contaminate the fabrication process. AMD is sold in stores. Please see www.amd.com for more information as you are terminally misinformed about CPUs and how they lend themselves to hacking. If you really don't want you child to be hacking then get them a macintosh because despite what you see in the movies macs are not premier hacking machines. Then again once your child learns about computers they may despise you for getting them a mac over a PC. If they like their mac computer then there is almost no chance whatsoever that your child is a hacker. 4. Perhaps you should read some of these books you claim to be hacker manuals. Of course with your limited mental faculties you will undoubtedly not understand any of the words written in these books and so you might as well read something in a foreign language that you don't understand because it will make about as much sense to a mental midget such as yourself. HAve fun with your book burning crusade by the way. :-/ 5. DOS stands for Disk Operating System. A DOS attack means a Denial Of Service attack. They are not the same thing. Most denial of service attacks are launched by hackers using software running on other peoples computers. These people are unwittingly letting their systems be used to attack other computers by not running anti-virus software of adequately securing their computers from hackers. The amount of time your child spends on the computer is not an indication that they are launching a Denial of Service attack on someone. Limiting your childs ability to acces a vital resource such as the internet and the information it can provide is not going to help them grow up to be a better person. It will help them to grow up to be an uninformed person such as yourself. 6. Quake is not virtual reality, it is an online multiplayer GAME. It is entertainment, not some hacker training ground. Telling your sons school that he plays quake will not get you anywhere except to make you look like the ass you are. Millions of people, young and old alike, play quake on a daily basis and they are neither dangers to society nor hackers. 7. What you have just described is a teenager, not a hacker. 8. Linux is neither illegal nor some secret russian operating system. Linus Torvalds is not a russian either. Microsoft and the United states government had nothing to do with writing Linux. Hahaha Linux can be uninstalled, just not by a mindless n00b who thinks AOL is the internet. Uninstalling it doens't damage your machine. Linux is only an operating system and you might be interested to know that Windows has "telnet" built into it as well. 9. You seem to have mistaken Hackers for Candy Ravers. Hackers usually prefer dark clothing that bears logos like "Got Root?" and "j00 4r3 n0t 1337." The people who like dayglow colors and glowsticks are candy ravers and that is a whole other issue completely unrelated to computer use. 10. hahahha computer radiation doesn't cause any damage, if that were true then I would be one of the sickliest people on earth. As it stands I am in perfect health and have perfrect vison despite the fact that I have spent the majority of my time in front of a computer for the past SEVENTEEN YEARS. Your son may lose muscle mass and gain weight however, that part is true. Encouraging them to partake in other physical activities is healthy. Hackers are usually very intelligent so if you child is struggling in school then it is not very likely that they are a hacker. They are probably spending too much time in an AOL chat room talking dirty to child molesters. If they are merely getting bad grades because they are not applying themselves even though they understand the material and find it mind numbing boring then maybe you have a hacker and maybe you have an underchallenged child who is smarter than you and finds the repetetive regurgatory nature of school to be one of the worst tortures imaginable. I will sum up my long winded rebuttal with the simple statement that the orinial "guide" writer is so tragically misinformed and uneducated about the matters of which he speaks that his words should be considered a crime against humanity. I suggest that if you believe any part of his writings that you should read and investigate for yourself and then understand for yourself just how wrong and incompetent his ramblings are. Thank you for your time.

	Well done (none / 0) (#478)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 02:12:06 PM PST

	Saved me a lot of typing there. I read about this on a Quake related site (heavens I'm looking at websites about the game, I must be a hacker) and felt strongly against it...but didn't have any solid proof. But excuse me, Comet Cursor, Bonzi Buddy, and FLASH of all things being hacker programs. If you are not intentionally trying to misinform innocent people, then you must be the most imbecilic person who has access to a computer. I also found the fact that your description of how a hacker "looks" linked to a file specifically called "rave" something or other (it was a picture). Claiming that Quake can be training for fire arms is quite disturbing. There are many more realistic (and for that matter more popular) games out there. In Quake you use weapons like a rocket launcher, a lightning gun, a nail gun - things you would never have in real life. And you can do crazy things with them that are physically impossible. If your son has access to a rocket launcher something is seriously wrong. I understand you have freedom of speech, but please don't post such misinformative articles. There are people out there who take your word for it, and you are probably sitting back and getting a good laugh out of it all. Requests for a change of ISP or for upgrades are hardly guarantees someone is a hacker. There are no guarantees. About half the points you posted are valid- while none are proof, they're definitely worth watching for. But some are just so demonstrative of your lack of knowledge on the subject that it scares me to think you contribute to a website - and don't even know what those programs are. By the way, I'm a teenage male who plays Quake, wants an upgrade for his computer for Christmas, reads science fiction novels like some of the books you mentioned (though some were serious hacking books - I don't read those) along with history/plays/everything else, has those three "hacker programs" on his computer, would be extremely upset if his parents decided to use AOL, prefers AMD chipsets, and doesn't dress like those people in your "pictures of hackers". Anyone care to call me a hacker?

	Thank You God (none / 0) (#6106)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jan 12th, 2002 at 04:48:22 PM PST

	Thank you for exploiting the ignorance of this article that was so blatently iodiotic that it made myself, a computer psuedoexpert, laugh my ass off. I on behalf of the community of computer experts thanks you for taking the time to reiderate the iodicy of this article. Post Script: To the author of the article, Can you be any mre uninformed! You can't even spell the blody software right!

	LOL!!!! OMFG!!!! (0.50 / 2) (#283)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:45:12 PM PST

	OH MY SWEET JEEZUS!!! THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE EVER READ IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!! WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS EXACTLY HOW MUCH I'M LAUGHING RIGHT NOW!!! sigh OOOOOOK....Mr. T. Reginald Whatshisfuck, do you realize how totally off base you are? I mean, for chrissake, there isn't even an operating system called "lunix"...IT'S LINUX, YOU DIPSHIT!!! And it's and incredibly stable operating system which is way better than anything Microsoft has put out, until Windows XP of course...and then your whole "AMD" thing...AMD is a multibillion dollar corporation which produces processors far superior to that of Intel and their counterparts...AND QUAKE!!! It's a fucking game, genius...hackers don't meet there...you fucking go there to play and release aggression, instead of killing people in real life...if you really would like to know where hackers meet, try a little program called mIRC...In conclusion, people with as small a mental caliber as yourself should not be allowed to live in normal society...rather, you should be shipped in a crate to Greenland where you will be graded on the idiocy scale...Hopefully, you'll be high enough to where we turn you into a walking target, and I'll be able to bust out a nice sniper rifle and end the misery which you've imposed upon the world...I truly hope you die a painful death involving one of the fallacies of which you've spoke...thank you, and goonight...

	Greenland?? (none / 0) (#6088)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jan 12th, 2002 at 01:49:52 PM PST

	Hey! I'm from Greenland, and we're not ALL idiots! :'(

	pfft.. (none / 0) (#6511)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 16th, 2002 at 07:11:52 AM PST

	Lol man, "if you really would like to know where hackers meet, try a little program called mIRC..." lmfao thats so fucked up, hackers on mIRC? shit ur dumb.. scripters yeah but mIRC isn't exactly home to amazingly strong hackers, ain't sayin those peepz r lame, but they sure as fuck ain't hackers.

	My little bro can boot to dos, is he a hacker? (none / 0) (#284)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:51:02 PM PST

	Gaadamn this guy is an idiot. What does comet cursor have to do with hacking? Where did you read this crap? Please give us the links because i truelly wish to laugh more. Your child was on the computer for more than 30 minutes.. maybe he was reading all the bullshit his father was putting on the net... maybe he was playing a game, maybe you need to stop watching your son, and actually go read up on hackers. I'd be more conserned with the fact that someone might sneak into your backyard and rape you dog over your son being a hacker. Most (good) computer admins or anyone with power in a computer related job is a hacker, not everyone is malicious, perhaps you are trying to cover up for some homosexual goat cravings by putting your son on the spot.

	Are you really THAT ignorant? (none / 0) (#285)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 10:52:51 PM PST

	:: i bet your son knows more about the internal operations of a computer than you do, and it is unfortunate you cant admit that he is OBVIOUSLY smarter than you. :: the words "hacker" and "illegal" dont belong in the same sentence. you are just as confused as the media as to what a "hacker" and a "cracker" really is. :: is #8 the joke of the day? :: why do all the questions make reference to "your son", since when is "hacking" based on gender? :: it's no wonder the world thinks poorly of hackers with idiots like you bad-mouthing them with illegitimate and unsupported "facts". if you were smart enough, you would quickly realize that without hackers, you would have no web page to post your (biased and uneducated) thoughts on... no Unix OS with Apache 1.3.20 web server software, which this site uses... and if BSD is "illegal", why is it that Microsoft used FreeBSD for their Hotmail web servers for years, only to quit using it because of the criticism they received for not using a Windows based web server? :: for those who really want to learn more about a wonderful FREE and OPEN SOURCE operating system called Linux, please visit www.linux.com

	You are a idiot (0.00 / 1) (#286)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:01:26 PM PST

	you are so off based ... Heis called a gamer not a hacker and you kid will grow up to hate you..

	Communist Bastard (none / 0) (#287)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:05:02 PM PST

	After the initial laughter I came to realize a rather haunting fact. This is REAL! This guy isn't joking around! You'd think someone writting an advice column would do some research before writting such slanderous lies and such, im seriously amazed a true hacker hasnt wasted this fella's machine yet. Now i keep wondering what his kid was doing that made him think he was a hacker... what could it possibly be... All i could think of was that he was using napster or icq or something... heh. People like this are why the world has countless problems. You know theres been people, few as they may be, that read this and believe parts of it, and in turn, their childrens lives ruined. Maybe you didnt realize this, but people who work on Computers like Network Administrators make boatloads of money, far more then an uneducated man such as yourself makes. Did you know there are classes at my school that teach you to use the command prompt, teach you to telnet, teach you to use Flash, and teach you other such things.... and Why on earth would you call flash a hacker program, its the same type of program as Adobe Photoshop!! How much crack did you smoke as a child? DAMN!?

	true dat (none / 0) (#2294)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 9th, 2001 at 07:25:46 AM PST

	thank you man, youre the most educated reply ive seen yet

	YEP (none / 0) (#3340)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 12th, 2001 at 02:27:59 AM PST

	not a thing to add. u are sooo right!

	YEP (none / 0) (#3342)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Dec 12th, 2001 at 02:40:38 AM PST

	not a thing to add. u are sooo right! And, btw, i am a parent.

	Oh My God!!! (0.50 / 2) (#289)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:11:11 PM PST

	Well, What else can I say but, Remember Joseph McCarthy? Russians, hackers whats the difference? Or maybe the salem witch trial? Everyone is a hacker according to what the users here believe. As far as the 10 ways to determine weather your child is a hacker...Get a clue. AMD processors are a cost effective alternative to provide your computer with faster processing needs. I am an owner of a web development company and use AMD in all of my systems, this does not make me a hacker. I am also a parent. Forget the ten ways to tell if your child is acting illegally on the net, Ill give you one way. Be proactive in ALL of his/her activities. Do not assume that when they get on the computer that there is not harm available. Kids will be kids, and get into trouble, as parents, we MUST be a part in our childs lives, even when they are at home. Get a clue, do more research, and be a parent.

	Hmm (0.50 / 2) (#290)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:12:03 PM PST

	Hmm.. So your son has been playing quake and asked for a faster isp and video card.. And you think this is a hacker? Maybe if he was asking for books on encryption, programming, tcp/ip, and network security there would be cause for suspicion. Just sounds like your son has become addicted to online gaming and also ventured away from the tainted reality called windows and started playing with linux a bit. You sir, need to read into what you rant about before you make a complete ass out of yourself.

	thank god! (0.50 / 2) (#291)
	by cAb0oM on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:14:07 PM PST

	You are a genius! I didn know any of those things! Thank you very much! I have a message to all the parents: PARENTS! JOIN ALL TOGETHER! WE HAVE TO PREVENT OUR CHILDREN FROM USINGS THOSE SATANIC MACHINES! COMPUTERS ARE SATANIC CREATIONS! DONT LET YOUR KID BECOME A HACKER! SAY NO TO HACKING! SAY YES TO BILL GATES! SAY YES TO INTEL! SAY YES TO ADOBE! SAY YES TO REGISTRATIONS! SAY YES TO WINDOWS! SAY NO TO LINUX! SAY NO TO FLASH! SAY NO TO AMD! SAY NO TO THE MP3 PROGRAM THAT STEALS MUSIC FROM THE STEREOS! SAY NO TO DOSing! -cAb0oM PS: Of course I am joking... my real opinion is: YOU SUCK!

	Is this a joke (none / 0) (#292)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:15:01 PM PST

	I must say this is probably one of the funniest articles I have read on hacking, but it suddenly dawned on me... people might actually believe this nonsense. What a scary world this is. BTW, I voted that hackers scare me because they help Osama, as I believed it was the most rediculous responce, but then I see the results... 2nd place. Please do the world a favor and view ALL information on the internet critically. This should include the television too... Good day

	This was a joke, right? (0.50 / 2) (#297)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:31:53 PM PST

	Well Reggie, if this was posted as a joke it's pretty hilarious. Some of your links made me laugh my ass off. You obviously don't know ANYTHING about computers, The Internet, or Linux. I'm thinking that anyone that believes ANY of this CRAP you posted, should not be allowed to have a House PLant, or a Pet, let alone a child. If ignorance is bliss, you must be pretty happy, I just feel bad for any child of yours. As for this crap about Women not being good hackers, I disagree. Computers don't care about gender, and I know several women that are excellent with their computer.

	Don't be so harsh (0.50 / 2) (#301)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:44:14 PM PST

	I am ashamed of all of you. Yes, this man, husband, and father of 6 did make a few.... dozen errors and ignorant or naive judgements, but he was just trying to help other parents. Obviously anyone with a decent amount of computer experience wouldn't have bought into this. By posting such extreme messages is only going to estrange him more and perhaps push him further into his ignorance. I can't say how old he is, but imagine never owning a computer like many of you obviously do. Imagine how much he has to handle, learning with his children, instead of already knowing what they're using. Can we get some constructive criticism please?

	Oh shut up you dumb dip (none / 0) (#6102)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jan 12th, 2002 at 03:59:16 PM PST

	If you don't realize that the article is a satire, you're even fuking stupider than the other 99% of people here who don't realize it, and are correcting the author. If you want to read the comment of one of the few few people who has a clue about this, read http://www.adequacy.org/?op=comments;sid=2001/12/2/42056/2147;cid=269#269 number 269 in this topic.

	Hi i am here to help (0.50 / 2) (#302)
	by exer on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:47:08 PM PST

	Hi you seam to be misinformed on a few of the things you are talking about. If you have an intrest in hearing what i have to say about your posting feel free to email me at exer@c4.com i will be more then glad to help you gain a better understanding of what you are talking about. And to be honost with you if you were able to tell what you son was doing on the computer with the knowladge you have of computers your son was not hacking any one. One of the first things you would learn as a hacker would be how to cover up what you do.... which means hide everyhting from paretns if it is aplicable which in your case it seams to be an extream.

	SEX (none / 0) (#305)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:50:07 PM PST

	Now that I have your attention First off, lets set the ground rules.... This article is not serious. ...... ok then Now, this goes out ot everyone that has written a fr34k1ng 3554y (freaking essay) about everything that is wrong with that post.... yah know how it took you all 45 min + to write that? well guess what... you.... all.... are... dumbasses. You've wasted your time critizing an article that is entirely meant for humor. m4d pr0ps to post 220 any p4r3nt who would even think a sentence in that article was true and that they should be good parents and incarcerate there "m4d H@xx0rz" should be dragged out into the street and shot. lets rank the intelligents of peeps posting here: 1. Guy who posted the article -- just trying to be funny, make a point 2/3. Peeps who know he's kidding and thought it was funny --nuff said 2/3.peeps who know he's kidding and thought it wasn't funny 4. Peeps who thought it might be serious -- ya ya ya 5. Peeps who think it is serious 6. Same as above, but posted about it 7.same as above BUT WROTE A FR34K1NG THESIS PAPER ABOUT IT

	Relax (0.50 / 2) (#309)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 12:10:44 AM PST

	Your son's growing up and is taking an interest in computers. I'm 18, and thanks to my parents not getting their undies in a wad over me staying up every night until 3am on the computer when I was 13, I make $15/an hour doing websites for a professional ad firm. The programs he's installed are innocent customization features. Flash lets you view Flash movies (something used commonly in making websites), the Comet Cursor just modifies the cursor (the arrow on your screen) and Bonzi Buddy is another harmless, free program. Just because someone plays Quake (it's a game; you have too many misconceptions about it for me to even begin with) instead of Little League doesn't mean they're a satan worshiping, disobedient welp, it just means they're interested in different things than "normal" kids are. I play Quake but I go to my Christian church every Sunday. My best friend is the youth rep and my grandfather was a minister until he passed away last year. May I also remind you that the bible says not to conform, and - no offence but - by the tone of your article, you seem to be conforming quite a bit and worrying a lot about raising a Leave It To Beaverish family. Maybe you should focus more on accepting your son as an individual than focusing on forcing him into your mold. The hardware your son's asking for is probably so he can improve his skills at playing the game (Quake), and so he could improve skills at doing something constructive to help the Internet be a better place. A video card doesn't aid Hackers, it makes graphics look better (hence the name "Video Card".) RAM and a larger hard drive will make your computer run faster. I don't know where you read that a video card will aid hackers, but you should stop going there as it's misleading and misinforming. AOL is a shoddy ISP, if you don't believe me, check out www.aolwatch.org. Your son has good reason to want to stay away from it; it's slow, you get busy signals and the tech support workers are typically dolts. All the websites are sent through proxy servers, and the child lock doesn't even work. Try finding porn with it on, I guarantee you'll find some. Likewise, he has a good reason to like Linux. Check into Linux and you'll see why; things like the Code Red virus won't effect it. It's based on Unix, one of the most powerful Operating Systems in the world and it's free. Many government (American Governments, since you seem to be so concerned with things coming from our own country) use it for missle defense systems and other things. The inventors name is Linus, not Linyos, and he wasn't a Soviet, he was an American. AMD makes good processors, and unlike the processors Intel makes, AMD won't have remote access to your computer. The books your son is reading aren't hacker manuals, they're regular novels. If you see a 2600 Magazine in his room, then you should talk with him about it. More over, hackers aren't all bad. There are good hackers who work for the government and companies; teams of hackers will try to hack software for a company to improve the stability and performance of it. The government has teams of hackers for the same reason. Some hackers don't even deal with hacking into other computers; they program software. PERL is a programming language, and you should be very proud that your son is delving into something that advanced. Otaku is a form of cartoon from Japan. Anime, Manga and Otaku are all forms of Japanese Animation. It's common for American kids to like them because the drawings are well done and it's just a trend. Watch a show sometime, you may even like it. Last but certainly not least, your son's choice in clothing is Raver clothing, not Hacker clothing. If your son is wearing all dark clothes, trench coats and dyes his hair black, be more worried. If I were you, I'd start watching out for drugs as that sort of thing goes on a lot at the typical rave. Unless of course he's going to Christian raves. Judge not lest ye be judged. Humble thyself in the sight of the Lord. (In other words, stop judging your son and get off your high horse. If you don't, your son will rebel against you and move out the first chance he gets.)

	stupidest article ever (0.50 / 2) (#310)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 12:14:53 AM PST

	umm... die in a fire. but 1/16 of that was true. more than half of hte stuff you mentiend i myself do as a 16-year-old. but i am not a hacker, just a computer guru.. a nerd you might say..but not a hacker. this article should be entitle: "Is your son a nerd?"

	I agree (none / 0) (#5863)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jan 10th, 2002 at 03:30:10 PM PST

	I too am a "computer guru". I am a self-taught 17 year old in the ways of a computer. I assume you were referring to a MALICIOUS hacker. In that case, your article was horrible. If you were referring to the correct definition of hacker, "an advanced computer user," then you are correct. Most people do not realize it, but that is the true definition of "hacker." Most hackers, anyway, are not on a mission to destroy other people's computers, but to see if they can get in.

	Please tell me this a joke.... (0.50 / 2) (#311)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 12:16:27 AM PST

	I hope this is a joke done by someone who had nothing better to do all day. This just showed me that there are people are there who not only lack intellect, but worst of all are parents. Well, just so that you know, I can say that as a writer, this is the biggest piece of garbage I've ever had the displeasure to read. Have you even honestly researched this topic before releasing this piece of jargon? Quake is a 3-D shooting game and nothing more, Linux is an operating system and nothing more, and Flash is a program used to make animations among other things. While I admit that Comet Cursor is the most useless program I have ever had the displeasure of installing in my system, none of these are hacker programs as you claim them to be. You don't even know what you're talking about, so how can you present a valid argument? I mean, do you have that much to hide that you're afraid people will hack into your computer? You don't seem to have a fear of hackers, but you're afraid that someone will find a skeleton in your closet. Am I right? You talk about giving your kids "good morals" and want to keep them safe, but you have firearms in the house, which makes you not only worse than real hackers, but you're inviting death to take your children away. Thats already showing lack of brains. Are you going to wait until shoot eAch other in the head before becoming cognitively active? Now, on to another ignorant thing mentioned in this thing that cannot even be called a work written by a human being. Misuse of the word "Otaku"...do you even know what the word means? It's loosely translated into "obsessed fan" from the original Japanese. These days it's a term to refer to anime fans, a type of slang used within the United States. Unless you're a fool that takes things too seriously , and see anime as the work of the devil, the word Otaku should not be in this so called essay (I know I'm insulting the word "essay"). You even attacked fashion. You never, ever judge a person by their cover. I happen to know a lot of these people whom you call hackers, and they're the nicest people I've ever met, and they're more hospitable to others, unlike upstuck fools like you, and society does have a word for you too. That word is yuppies. Unlike these nice people, you look down on the rest of the world, and don't try to deny it because you know it's true. You're an even bigger fool to think that sports are a part of everyday life. Take me for example. I don't do sports. In fact, I hate them because they don't promote cerebral development. Am I evil too? I'm not even overweight, since I am an even 135 pounds and I am 5'2". You must believe in some stupid image that by stalking your own kids, and I really mean stalking, and not trusting them, and having them do sports, you're in an ideal life. Assuming they're hackers without reason just shows lack of intellect on your part. I bet your child doesn't trust you anymore because you thought he was a hacker. I bet his little sister just wanted something and he refused to give it to her, so she in revenge claimed that he's a hacker (children only think about themselves, so you can't deny me this one). I don't know what type of parent you are, but I thank God that my parents weren't like you. I'd probably be living in the same stupid illusion you're fooling yourself with. If you desire to atone for your lack of brains, I suggest you run back to your child right now and apologize to him and take back everything you said. Your child will thank you for it, rather than leave you in your old age in a home and never come to see you. Whichever you choose, it's your family, not mine, but may God have mercy on your soul if you don't.

	Just to be an obnoxious know-it-all.. (none / 0) (#412)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:14:57 AM PST

	'Otaku' translated means 'honorable house' or something like that, and is a old, formal way of referring to people. Sci-fi geeks and whatnot used it to refer to each other, which is why 'otaku' translates roughly as 'geek' now. It more rightly translates as 'thee' or 'thou' or something. Anyway.

	You are Grade A Stupid (0.50 / 2) (#312)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 12:18:54 AM PST

	I don't even know how to respond to this piece of trash article. Of the billions of sperm, how the fuck did you win the race? AMD should sue your ass for slander, you little cock-wipe.

	Jesus christ you are an idiot!!! (0.50 / 2) (#317)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 12:27:14 AM PST

	By X-R-Cist Listen up Hobo! were the hell do you get off saying that people that use AMD and play quake are hackers??? did you stick your dildo up your ass too far this time and cause some brain damage??? Did it ever occur to you that maybe people buy AMD products because they are 70% cheaper than that stupid Intel crap!? Or that maybe AMD make a better chip? go on put it on a benchtest whats the bet that AMD will come out in front?? Also how the fuck can you say that playing QUAKE will make a hacker? Let me tell you something you low life scum, I play quake and the only thing that is talked about in quake is PINGS! i have yet to see someone talk about hacking or FOR FUCKS SAKES WEAPON HANDLING! maybe you take a game like quake serious but most of us DONT..because like many other games it is just a <b>GAME</b> and its not virtual reality either idiot, its a 3d game. Let me give you some key words here, <b>VIRTUAL</b> meaning "almost like" <b>REALITY</b> something real!! ok, if you get shot in "REALITY" you die plain and simple. but not in quake. so its not a "VIRTUAL REALITY game moron! before you go trying out your new computer your daddy bought for you and make a complete asshole of yourself by trying to seem smart go and get your fucking facts straight before a real hacker finds you and fucks up you and "your sons obssesion with linux" life up! fuckwit!

	Me agree with #317 (none / 0) (#348)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:57:46 AM PST

	wake up Hobbbbbbbbbbbo, You're a space invader, I've never read such garbage in my life, ouhhhhh let me guess my life is also shorten because i play quake, wow, snorkel duster, tungle medarcle. on your bike daddy!

	HAHAHAHAH (none / 0) (#318)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 12:28:14 AM PST

	Is this for real???? THis is the funnist shit i have read in years!!!!! http://www.lordsofdeath.com/main.asp

	Is your father a Hack Writer? (0.50 / 2) (#322)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 12:46:23 AM PST

	enough said

	I'm a father. (0.50 / 2) (#330)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:05:23 AM PST

	I play online games with my son. Counter-Strike to be specific. Counter-Strike uses guns and shows large amounts of blood and violence. However, he can see the same amount of gore on tv and in movies, not to mention the news and magazines. We've got 2 pimped out comps with hella ph4t internet service. WOOO HOOO THAT POST WAS FUNNY AS FuX0R! My son isn't a H4x0R, but he is one of those annoying C4P 5P4MM3R5! He thinks he is the sh1Z and posseses M4D L337 Sk1LLz, but needs a good azz whoopin', not for spending time on the c0mp, but because cap spammers are annoying. I found out he dl'd a wall haX and beat his azz. Ch33t0rz are the w0rst. My son and I spend quality time haXing it up online together. I never used to be into online gaming, but I learned L337-5p34k, and now speak his language. Remember when rock music was "evil"? Every generation has it's scape goat. I dig on the gangsta-rap he listens to, and actually bought him 3 new "electronic" music cd's for X-mas. Did I mention I am Amish?

	Adequacy Are 31337 h4x0r f00lz Too, You Know... (none / 0) (#388)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:19:37 AM PST

	http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=off&mode_w=on&site=adequacy.org&submit=Examine OMG! Adeqaucy use a hacker OS! The site adequacy.org is running Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) mod_perl/1.26 on FreeBSD Even more interesting: Current: FreeBSD Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) mod_perl/1.26 31-Aug-2001 63.89.124.239 Previous: Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 10-Aug-2001 63.89.124.225 Previous Before That: Linux Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) 7-Aug-2001 216.254.38.244 Stop deleting this post admins, I'll keep reposting it... Someone quote this post to help keep it alive plz.. thx...

	is this good enough? (none / 0) (#1851)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Dec 7th, 2001 at 06:33:07 AM PST

	\|v\|00r3, \|v\|00r3, 5\|v3 u2 \|v\|00r3

	HAHAH hello wake up GROW BRAIN THX (0.50 / 2) (#331)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:05:57 AM PST

	You my friend are either a very lame jokes person, or someone without one clue who's been played for a fool by believing someone ELSES jokes. Ok so you didn't write it, your either thinking it's funny HA HA and getting a response like this out of the net community, or you're so fuckin' dumb that you believed it when you saw it and denied your son an AMD. Hello, AMD rocks, and YOU should live in a third world country, but they won't let you in due to your below average IQ. Yes that's right I think an ethiopian would have a higher IQ than you purely because even an ethiopian on a windup rubber band powered modem has a clue whereas your uppity dumbfuck self is so dumb that he forgets to wear a condom/withdraw/get the bitch on the pill SIX times, AND believes this trollop. The person who said go lie on the road is right, but I personally think you should go to hell (are you a mormen?) and take your 2 wives and 6 kids with you. No wait, leave the kids because at least that hacking son has a fucking clue.

	I'm laughing my ass off!!! (0.50 / 2) (#332)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:16:09 AM PST

	Whoever posted this article is a real dweeb. And the people in support of this article are real idiots too! Hackers have been in existance since many centuries ago. The term "hacker", in this circumstance, refers to someone who likes to challenge society, in one way or another. A good example is Socrates or even Bill Gates. For some(or many) people, challenging the norms society has set out for them is a goal, and that includes teenagers, no less. Language like "l33t hax0r" isn't just used by hackers. It is commonly used by many people on IRC(Internet Relay Chat) for fun, or just so that they will be accepted by their peers. Yes, in the past it was used mainly among hackers, sure! But these days, usage of such words has spread to non-hackers. Techno music is related to hacking?! No, it isn't. I enjoy a wide variety of music, from genres like rap, hip hop, trance, techno, industrial, classical, heavy metal, etc. I also used to play games like Quake3. For your information, the US military uses simulation games styled after computer games like Ghost Recon, Quake3, etc. to train their soldiers. Yet, I don't think I have seen nor heard of any incidents of soldiers going on a mass killing spree, have I? Deprivation of knowledge leads to a narrow-minded individual. A parents should expose his child to dangers and guide him , instead of blindfolding him. The world is full of dangers and ignorancy of such matters eventually results in one's downfall. On the contrary, empowering oneself with knowledge culminates in a rich, intelligent being. To lead or to be led? Which category do you want your child to fall under? Btw, wasn't this post from isonews.com ?

	WTF !!! (0.50 / 2) (#334)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:16:56 AM PST

	is this a joke or not its pretty f*cked up AMD is made in sweatshops, i swear its tru... lol

	*HOLY SHT are you sooooo st00pid?????** (0.50 / 2) (#335)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:19:25 AM PST

	/YO YO YO, JUST because yer kid asks fer an AMD processor, A SUPERIOR and better product than anythinhg INTEL produces IS not a reason to suspect a Hacker in your MIDST! PLEASE do not go nutty cause a child isa interested in upgrading yer POS intel chip.. Athlons work on a 200mhz bus... 2 times the intel chips AND as an expert in the field explained to me how, simply, an Athlon works VS an Intel chip is this... an INTEL chip works on a ONE way street, back and forth through an 100MHZ bus to the motherboard as opposed to an ATHLON which works on a 3 way street on a 200MHZ bus to the motherboard, please reaserch your comments BEFORE ACCUSING a HONEST company's superior product as a tool foro hacking as i know i can hack JUST AS WELL using an Intel Celeraun processor as anything that ANYONE puts out, it ISN'T the techonology it is how smart the person using it is... so don't blame the techonology for your lack of supervision as a parent..... Ya knw the assholes who raised the kids at colombine who killed all those kids "didn't know what was going on" BIG SUPRISE they did not bother to pay attention to what was happening... I am A Graduate of colombine (1989) and NOT a stupid computer user.... DON'T lay your inability to raise your children on ANYONE OR ANY COMPANY! NOW go raise yer kids and stop whining on /anon messageboards about your ineptitude (SP) as a parent! Scott A. Bracken sscob@mindspring.com I HATE Anonomus posters, GROW SOME BALLS!

	is he the one? (0.50 / 2) (#341)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:43:01 AM PST

	we are the hackers. we recieved word of your site through out pearl scripts running on our linux boxes powered by AMD which we use to moniter all major communications. we have contacted your son about his actions, and are preparing to further his knowledge into the black arts. like the matrix, we search for and train children looking for the fabled one. your son is ready to begin his training, and we will contact him again. you cannot stop us.

	RE: Is my son a computer hacker? (0.50 / 2) (#342)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:43:55 AM PST

	After reading your editorial in what to look for in an emerging hacker, I believe that much of what you wrote is based out of assumptions. I, for one, have asked my parents to change ISPs, upgrade our computer and played many violent games but this has not led me to become a hacker at all. In fact, I don't even know how to hack, though I do know how to program and I am in my first year in university planning to major in computer engineering. No offence, but many of these traits can guide many uneducated parents into suspicion and mistrust. 1. Changing ISP's... Every kid nowadays wants to change ISPs of course. With broadband Internet, pages load faster, kids can stream more music, talk to their friends, watch TV shows. Even my parents enjoy this new form of Internet because they can watch movies from their homeland with out having to wait or pay. The TV broadcasters put their shows up on the web after the shows been aired in that country, which makes it convenient for people like my parents to watch the shows. Changing ISPs is not bad. AOL is not the best ISPs around. With frequent disconnections and very slow speed it can be frustrating. The Internet is big now and no teenager can go without it. Schools are also using the Internet to teach, and post assignments. There are many software distributors independent of AOL, which supplies "adult content blocking programs" to download. So basically these reasons are flawed altogether. 2. Installing new programs that you may not remember may become regularity now. Teens that know how to use computers may start to download movie viewers, patches, and so on. I for instance, do most of the maintenance on this computer. My younger brother always downloads something off the Internet and installs it but it wasn't anything that would destroy the hard drive. The programs could be a school programs that their teacher has given them to finish an assignment. Installing new programs does not by any means, means that your son or I am a hacker. 3. Upgrading or installing new hardware is common these days. There is a saying "Computers go obsolete once it leaves the store." Software is moving so fast that people must upgrade their computers. Microsoft has released their new OS, Windows XP, which needs to run under a powerful system to run smoothly. Games, also take a lot of computing power too, and it is a big market for Teens. As the computer industry moves on, software will become more elaborate and the need for more memory, better video cards, and CPU will increase. About AMD and Intel. AMD is located in America and no third world country would be making such sophisticated and expensive items such as silicon chips. Both AMD and Intel DO NOT have anti-hacking devices in them to prevent hacking. Hacking is done through software, NOT hardware. 4. Literature on hacking is availiable, which can be somewhat disappointing in some sense, but you can't base all computer books on programming as hacking manuals. If your son/daughter is interested in programming, don't immediately assume that he is a hacker. First see what he's programming first then make a judgement based on what he's programming. For instance, if the person is programming to make a dinky calculator, is he hacking? I believe not. 5. Time on the computer does not depend whether or not you¡¯re a hacker. Many businessmen spend their whole time on the computer, sending emails and replying them (which is becoming a problem in the workplace but that's another story). For all i know I spend a lot of time reading articles like this on the internet, and also to talk to my friends. This refutes what ever you say about how much time u spends on a computer. DOSing is pretty much stupid now, especially with win2k, win ME and win XP. Microsoft has got rid of the old DOS. Which means that the command prompt is literally useless. Functions like deltree or format must be done through windows. 6. Hehehe. Ah yes, let's all blame video games for all the violence in the world. I agree that games may influence one's mind into doing violent acts, but there is much more than that. There is television, music, friends, strangers, wherever you see there's violence around us. Playing quake to discuss hacking is not the only way violence will be induced. Phone, mail, e-mail, msn messaging... these all can be used. It is hard to track a hacker if you just rely on silly assumptions like this. 7. This social behaviour could be the cause of things OTHER than the computer. It could be new friends, or breaking up with old friends. Everything cannot be related to a computer. For example.. if I became angry at my mother because she threw away my homework, does that mean that I am a hacker? No, we can't assume that all hackers are mean and reclusive people. They could be ANYBODY. 8. Oy, here we go with the uneducated talk. Linux was indeed made by Linyos Torovoltos but it was made in 1994. I'm pretty sure based on history that that was a couple years after the cold war and the break up of the Soviet Union. It is an OS. Much more stable than windows and is very programmable to someone's taste. It's compatibility with other software is very limited though, so playing games like quake on the OS would be somewhat hard unless the game programmer made one that was compatible to linux. It is definitely not a hacking "program¡± and its intended use was not for hacking. It was made for beginning programmers to program an OS due to its open source code and to improve the existing code to make better OSs. 9. This change in appearance in children is due to their choice in friends, and tastes in culture (mainly pop). I don't wear my clothes because of hackers do I? Like I said hackers can be anyone. They can look like a successful businessman for all I care. 10. Academic results may or may not be an indicator. For instance, your son could be spending a lot of time on the computer because of games, not hacking. There are other factors that may bring down one's grades and by the way... "Computer radiation" is no different than the radiation coming from the TV, microwave, the stove, or the lights. If you've ever learned anything in physics class, everything emits radiation, and it does not cause schizophrenia, or any other mental disease. It could however damage the eye but that's like watching the TV up too close. Also meningitis is a disease of bacteria getting into the meningis or brain tissue causing infection. I don't think radiation and bacteria go hand in hand. I can understand why these people on the board are flaming (making fun of) you. First, do some proper research before posting something as ridiculous as this and second, don't base any thing on assumptions. Hackers can be anybody. I understand your concern for your children and others alike but please do some research before writing something trivial as this. PS. sorry for the bad spelling/grammar if there is any..

	Your a fucking idiot (none / 0) (#6220)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Jan 13th, 2002 at 03:01:34 PM PST

	To whichever moron wrote this page. You are exactly that. I have many times upgraded my internet and my computer. AOL SUX!!!!! Comet cursor is somethign you download so you can see differnt cursors people put on there site. I Have used Linux it is not hacking software. And if i was a hacker i would hack this site and remove it fromt he internet. Man you should lighten up on your poor kids. The dress you talking about is a RAVER idiot they have nothing to do with computers. God go take a few corses before posting this crap and polluting the internet. -sharra

	Now I've heard everything (0.50 / 2) (#344)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:51:21 AM PST

	Congrats everyone, we are honoured to have borne witness to the most stupid person on this planet. May he rot in the burning fires of hell. This person has got some serious issues. Gavin G Ireland

	Thanyou (0.50 / 2) (#346)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:54:27 AM PST

	Oh thankyou so much for the funniest read i have had today. including the twits that replied thinking it was a serious post. you have made my day. "Quake is an online virtual reality used by hackers" bahaha sniff bahaha ! Spider

	hahaha (1.00 / 1) (#347)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 01:54:29 AM PST

	well thats it, timmy isn't gonna be using the computer anymore, I don't want those "veriozon" hackers influencing my son...well I gotta go, suzy wants to play with her freinds on mIRC.

	HAHAHAHAHA!! (1.00 / 1) (#349)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 02:02:06 AM PST

	Oh man... That's great! I absolutely love it... Write more! Write about how if your kid uses file sharing programs, they must be a Communist trying to overthrow the government!

	Note to Parents... (1.00 / 1) (#351)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 02:09:32 AM PST

	Please, Please, PLEASE take the time to read the replies for this "article." It's filled to the brim with imbeciles under the impression that the author was serious. Parents must be doing a horrible job raising their kids if the morons reading this satire could believe it was sincere. Maybe they felt the need to reply after another "ignorant adult" insulted their scripting hobbiez (since a true hacker would have the brain cells to see the joke...not that he'd be caught dead on this site). Whyever the hell this is, please use it as a reminder that computers are detrimental to your child's health. Don't believe me? The kids who've replied here have zero ciritical thinking skills....I doubt they'd take a clue if given away for free.

	i'm a "kid" (none / 0) (#6899)
	by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jan 24th, 2002 at 02:44:01 PM PST

	i'm 19 i am a hacker i build computers i write my own software i set up networks for my friends i maintain my girlfriend's store's computer system i use flash i use linux i hate bonzi buddy i think commet cursor is useless i read every book in this article i spend alot of time in IRC i hate ignorant people like the person to whome this is a reply i have a brain i use logic i saw the sarcasm and humor in the aticle i was scared by the article also, as the vast majority will not see the sacasm or the humor i don't think i am better than you i bet you think i am though, and for that, you feel the need to pick at me and try to make me look bad in order to feel better about yourself i am done with this post

	Please, I can't breathe... (1.00 / 1) (#356)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 02:23:29 AM PST

	The post was hilarious, but the comments really take the cake. My god, this must be some of the funniest shit ever. :)

	lol (1.00 / 1) (#359)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 02:32:12 AM PST

	this is funny though a compaq??? what kind of retard buys a compaq.... all comp hackers now days build their own comps :) /me hugs his 1.4ghz AMD!!! Athlon :) btw.... NZ ownz Australia in the cricket!!

	NZ got lucky (none / 0) (#1992)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sat Dec 8th, 2001 at 04:47:39 AM PST

	if it wasn't for the rain, we'd have kicked your asses.

	luck had nothing to do with it..... (none / 0) (#6261)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Jan 13th, 2002 at 09:37:52 PM PST

	wasnt raining on Jan 11th... or Jan 13th... chuckle chuckle

	NZ man, you must be joking...... (none / 0) (#6304)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 06:30:17 AM PST

	Hey Tiger, I don't recall NZ actually winning anything apart from a meaningless one day game. We still have the trophy. Not to mention the Bledisloe, the World Cup and anything else you care to mention.... But at least your having a go now. All Aussies appreciate that, cause it was getting a bit boring.

	NZ Suck (none / 0) (#6999)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Feb 5th, 2002 at 12:48:28 AM PST

	AAArgh why are you talking about cricket?

	This is a joke right? (0.50 / 2) (#360)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 02:33:33 AM PST

	If this "article" (propaganda) is meant to be the truth, then I would have to call you ignorant. AMD makes pirate chips? You can learn about hacking and using real life weapons in a game of Quake (ever hear of a game called SWAT? You would get a kick out of that one.) [I think you mean IRC] I would hate to be your kids, I am sure they will grow up to be drug users due to the harsh warping you must endure. Book banning? Im sorry, but we live in the United States of America. This means that I am free to walk into the store of my choice, pick up a copy of the Necrominicon and a pack of condoms, maybe some beer, and play some Quake on an AMD XP1900+ cpu. You are bent, and all I can do is shudder.

	You are a joke right (none / 0) (#6145)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Jan 13th, 2002 at 12:09:54 AM PST

	You seriously don't get it do you! The whole artical was a Joke and quite a good one since there seem to be so many gullible replies like yours.

	oh my ignorance (1.00 / 1) (#362)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 03:17:47 AM PST

	#1: its LINUX jack-ass, created by linus torvalds #2: its an operating system FAR MORE secure and resource managing than yer windows platform ever thought of being #3: AOL is the BIGGEST gate way for pedophiles and lude behavior KNOWN TO ISPS TO DATE!! my godd man you are dum dum dum!! its one big damn personals add for freaks to get laid localy, dont believe me? try it #4 you need to spend more time reading and less time assuming, my money sez your "son" has your ass whooped intellectualy about 10 times over #5 shut the hell up you self-righteous, ignorant waste of space

	insanity!! (0.50 / 2) (#365)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 03:54:57 AM PST

	Mr T. Reginald Gibbons...here's something for you that i figured you would be interested.. (and if any others out there believe this, i have absolutely NOTHING to say to you...) import SavitchIn.java //a class written for collecting input public class Response { public static void ispCheck() { if(myComp.ISP != AOL) System.out.println("Danger! Non-AOL ISP detected. Hacker-like activity suspected."); else System.out.println("Good boy!"); } public static void progCheck() { char answer; for(int loop = 0; loop <= myComp.numProgs; loop++) { System.out.println("Do you remember installing this program?"); answer = SavitchIn.readChar(); if(answer == 'n') System.out.println("Danger! Unknown program!"); else System.out.println("Good boy!"); } } public static void hardWareCheck() { char answer; for(int loop = 0; loop <= myComp.numHW; loop++) { System.out.println("Did you recently upgrade to this device?"); answer = SavitchIn.readChar(); if(answer == 'y') System.out.println("Danger! Updated hardware!"); else System.out.println("Good boy!"); } } public static void readCheck() { char answer; for(int loop = 0; loop <= myShelf.numbooks; loop++) { System.out.println("Does this book teach you how to program?"); answer = SavitchIn.readChar(); if(answer == 'y') System.out.println("Danger! Hacking Manual (java, c or c++!"); else System.out.println("Good boy!"); } } public static void timeCheck() { float hours; System.out.println("How many hours do you spend on the computer each day?"); hours = SavitchIn.readFloat(); if(hours >= 5.00) System.out.println("Danger! Spending too much time on the computer by engaging in hacking-like activities."); else System.out.println("Good boy!"); } public static void quakeCheck() { char answer; System.out.println("Do you play quake?"); answer = SavitchIn.readChar(); if(answer == 'y') System.out.println("Danger! Commucating with other hackers"); else System.out.println("Good boy!"); } public static void behaveCheck() { char answer; System.out.println("Are you argumentative?"); answer = SavitchIn.readChar(); if(answer == 'y') System.out.println("Danger! Attitude change indicates tendency towards becoming a hacker!"); else System.out.println("Good boy!"); } public static void linuxCheck() { char answer; System.out.println("Do you use Linux (or tried to)?"); answer = SavitchIn.readChar(); if(answer == 'y') System.out.println("Danger! Linux users are potential hackers!"); else System.out.println("Good boy!"); } public static void clothesCheck() { char answer; System.out.println("Do you like baggy pants and bright colors?"); answer = SavitchIn.readChar(); if(answer == 'y') System.out.println("Danger! These clothes reflexes hacker-like personalities and tendency."); else System.out.println("Good boy!"); } public static void gradeCheck() { float gpa; System.out.println("Enter GPA"); gpa = SavitchIn.readFloat(); if(gpa < 3.0) System.out.println("Danger! Low GPA due to excessive hacking!"); else System.out.println("Good boy!"); } public static void main(String args[]) { ispCheck(); progCheck(); hardWareCheck(); readCheck(); timeCheck(); quakeCheck(); behaveCheck(); linuxCheck(); clothesCheck(); gradeCheck(); } } javac Response.java java Response Danger! Non-AOL ISP detected. Hacker-like activity suspected. Danger! Unknown program! Danger! Updated hardware! Danger! Hacking Manual (java, c or c++)! Danger! Spending too much time on the computer by engaging in hacking-like activities. Danger! Commucating with other hackers Danger! Attitude change indicates tendency towards becoming a hacker! Danger! Linux users are potential hackers! Danger! These clothes reflexes hacker-like personalities and tendency Danger! Low GPA due to excessive hacking! looks like i am doomed to be a hacker....and maybe even land my ass in jail!? oh no...someone help me! (just FYI..i am a CS Major at UCSD. Go figure..) enjoy.

	11. Speaking in tongues. (none / 0) (#426)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 10:03:31 AM PST

	someone help me! We would if we understood what it was you were trying to tell us.

	wtf did you smoke (0.50 / 2) (#366)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 04:00:54 AM PST

	god man you are retarded.. and when i say retarded you take the cake. Man were you born on the top of the stupid tree... then fell down and hit every branch on the way down. Ok first of all if I was on aol i would want a new isp to okay download a file at 0.33kb/s is not my thing. Second of all you smoked too much crack when you were a kid or maybe your mom dropped you a few times who knows who cares. Comet Cursor is to add stupid cursors when you surf somebody's page. Bonzai Buddy is a annoying fucking parot that talks and just fucking annoys you and sings and tells retarded jokes you may have found them funny due to your current intelligence. Flash im sure you would have thought it was a hacker program cause you didn't even know where to start to use it. Well i can see why your son wants new hardware fuck its a compaq compaqs suck... and if he is play QUAKE NO WONDER HE WANTS NEW SHIT your pc fucking sucks. Anyways AMD stands for AMERICAN MICRO DEVICES your a fool for saying that and if AMD found out what you said you can be sued for slander hope you got big bucks Mr. Mouthy. Ok your just retarded neuromancer is a fantasy book so get a life Mr. Wizard. Pearl is a programmers book fuck people in university buy it because they are STUDYING PROGRAMMING your such a fucking moron do people stick their fingers at your head and say duh empty. "If your son spends more than thirty minutes each day on the computer, he may be using it to DOS other peoples sites. DOSing involves gaining access to the "command prompt" ok your just retarded there. DOS is a os but what you are talking about is d0s its the denial of service not disturbance form what one of your retarded minions of stupidity posted. It is done by sending unfinished packets so that the computer tries to process the first one but can't then tons and tons more come in and the computer just gets bogged out and either gets a famous B.S.O.D blue screen of death ... or just gets so slow you have to say wtf. Ok if I had a dad like you i woudln't just become argumentative i would take you and throw you out the window or do the world a favor and shoot you and say oops duh.Ok you must have a really crappy pc since Lunix is Little Unix for a Commador 64. It is Linux not whatever else and Mandrake Debian And Red Hat are distrubutions of linux. Ok its not a fucking hacker os since FUCKING IBM ECT... INCLUDES IT IN SERVER PCS YOU FUCKING DOLT HELLO MCFLY ANYBODY HOME? I see you read about 4 secs of the info and made the rest of the shit up. I use linux im not a hacker i just like that I can get it to do what i want it to not what Bill Gates wants it to do. ALSO LINUX AN UNIX DO NOT DESTROY YOUR HDD. It makes a linux partition knows as Linux Native you can't see it in Windows because its just too lame to include linux native file support. You just fire up your windows bootdisk then type in fdisk go to delete partitions then go to non dos and delete each one in their then go to create primary DOS partition and no your not hacking somebody moron. Then after that you format it nothing damaged on your hard drive you dont' need to get a new one. If i had to put up with your constant bullshit i would be getting in drugs to you made me want to find you and bop you in the back of your head with a ice pick. So don't be retarded don't cause mass panic linux is good secure fast sure it doens't do your crappy aol but geez your lame if you think aol is good or you just don't know how to do the same things. Somebody should just take away your internet just for the fact of publishing stupid comments and trying to pass them off as facts.

	I agree with all your comments, but.... (none / 0) (#6541)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 16th, 2002 at 01:43:28 PM PST

	AMD -> not AMERICAN micro devices it is ADVANCED micro devices. Just wanted to correct you. Otherwise you are right. That guy is hell retarded!

	ROFL (0.50 / 2) (#367)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 04:38:54 AM PST

	OMG what a stupid publicity stunt. I'm speechless... I advice u to remove this text before you get into trouble.

	just have to replay to this B.S. (0.50 / 2) (#368)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 05:35:15 AM PST

	Anybody that has anything to do with this crap posting or jokin it just simply friggin sick it is not funy 1.AMD is an American Company that makes High Quality Chips that are faster and cheaper than intel also has one of the newest High Tech factory in Dresden Germany. 2.AOL its slow it sucks and more than 20% of AOL users are gay and anyone who has AOL should change it 3.Linux is a legal,stable O.S. and not a hacker O.S. This Idiot is a DISEASE go and drug yourself will ya. Attending teen partys with his son HaaaaHaaaaHaaaaHaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa.... Good luck to his son and the rest of the famely.

	LMFAO (1.00 / 1) (#370)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 06:17:02 AM PST

	this has to b a joke u forgot typin in weird languages :P j00 r da f00 /\/\3 1$ g0\|\\|\|\\|4 0\/\/\|\\|Z0R j00, G37 4 1iF3 j00 54D /\/\0F0 ROFLMFAO!

	Judas Priest And Dungons & Dragons (0.50 / 2) (#372)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 06:26:36 AM PST

	This reminds me of when i was younger and my parents got the idea from some coalition of parents that I would be murdering my friends sooner or later due to the games and music that allowed me to use my imagination. I agree that it is in the best interest of the parents to investigate their childrens activities when using a computer but many of the statements made in this article are just not true. I would suggest for the credability of this site that the owners look into more creditable writers because I must admit this was my first visit to this site and my last.

	Thanks for the Laugh (0.50 / 2) (#374)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 06:27:45 AM PST

	Linux not Lunix....lol How about getting out of the house with your kid...or better yet...get your kid a computer mentor... If your kid is that bright then a mentor with help him move his computer talents to something productive. It is obvious you don't play quake with your kid or do you spend any time on the computer together.

	Amd and hacking????? (0.50 / 2) (#376)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 06:28:37 AM PST

	Who ever wrote this article is completely ignorant to the workings of a processor and the internet. A small suggestion to this "Model parent of the year", try educating yourself on computers and get a therapy for you're over inflated ego...........

	AMD- - thirdworld ?!?! (0.50 / 2) (#377)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 06:29:50 AM PST

	Hey you man with a foam in his head! What you`ve written in topic 3. is the biggest bullshit I`ve ever heard!!! Clear this post or we kick your ass!!! Have a nice day... GSC Faroukh

	Writer under influence of electromagneticradiation (1.00 / 1) (#379)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 06:38:39 AM PST

	You are such a big loser, seems like you wrote an online lifestory of yourself. I am the son of my dad(and mom=) an i spend about 10 hours a day with computers. I never hacked someone dut i have spikes nice colory clothes and red/yellow/black/orange/green/bleu hair. You are a total moron, this is just waste of the internet and my bandwidth and you schould be executed.

	dumb (0.50 / 2) (#380)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 06:39:34 AM PST

	What is wrong with u, who fed u this bullshit. 1. AMD make great processors which i belive are a better cheaper solution for a budget PC user. 2. Flash is a program for making web animations not hacking, comet cursor is a mouse change thing, makes your mouse look pretty. 3.Quake is game a game fucken hell you've got some major issues man. let your kids get pissed its the only whay the will learn how to drink large amounts of alcohol like myself. your a fucken nerk man.

	I hope the Lord protects us..... (0.50 / 2) (#382)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 06:54:56 AM PST

	I hope the Lord protects us from stupid people trying to take our rights from us. The author of the article is either joking or is horribly ignorant. Before you would pose as some sort of authority on the subjects you comment on, know something. Every computer gamer, well almost, plays Quake, a 3d first person shooter game. GAME. Every computer gamer wants a faster more powerful system, best video card, big hard drive etc... Such things are not required by hackers. Linux is simply an operating system that is more reliable than windows and is enjoying greater success by incorporation into some majot manufacturer computer systems, like IBM. And AMD is a rival to Intel, not a 3rd world CPU maker. And in most case, recently, the less expensive AMD has been better than Intel. AOL sucks as an ISP. Anything is better, especially is a dial-up modem is your only choice. There is free software all over to block and sensor your kids if you do not feel you have done a good job raising them.

	You are about as Stupid as supid can be. (1.00 / 1) (#383)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:08:05 AM PST

	Sir, you really need to see a shrink, you ahve some serious problems, with learning and common sense. I mean my god. 90 % of what you listed are done by ADULTS!!!.. And as for your Comments to AMD, I will be turning those over to AMD's Legal Department, AMD is a well respected company, and you are public trashing there name to give them a bad repuataion. So I hope in return they Sue the pants off you. GOOD DAY A PISSED OFF READER

	Yank Christians ROFL (1.00 / 1) (#384)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:10:49 AM PST

	Oh Dear..........you American Christians really aren't very bright are you. I could spend hours going through the fabrications, inaccuracies, lies, prejudice and downright ignorance contained in this, but it would fall on brainwashed, inbred fuckwits so I wont bother. I honestly thought that it was a spoof article at first but now I can see that you really do believe it.

	No wonder terrorists hate them... (none / 0) (#6334)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 02:17:31 PM PST

	Six children. I assume they're all human?

	NO (none / 0) (#6992)
	by Anonymous Reader on Sun Feb 3rd, 2002 at 02:02:41 AM PST

	i believe one was a chimp. his side.

	No no no no NO.... (none / 0) (#7164)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Mar 12th, 2002 at 05:48:51 PM PST

	Please, please, PLEASE do not generalize American Christians. I happen to be one myself... But I am ashamed to be lumped in the same category as that mass of ignorance that wrote the original article. I know very well what a computer is, how it works, and much about the various components and software that helps it tick. I try to see both sides of arguments, I try to help people when at all possible, and I am a member of a religion that encourages those traits. I do not appreciate it when people use Christianity to hide behind ignorance and closed-mindedness... And I most certainly dislike being categorized with people who do. Thank you. -SparroHawc

	The insanity of it all (0.50 / 2) (#387)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:15:20 AM PST

	First off, if you really wish to know a few facts there are divisions in what you all are refering to as hacking, namely cracking and phreaking. I am not going to go into details suffice to say the three are sufficiently different that most hackers are getting a hell of a kick of humor from this article. Secondly, I am a hacker as defined above, I create write and maintain computer code, and yes I do have the skills to crack or phreak but I do not. Third, I wonder how many of the people who are blind enough to believe this article would enjoy life without the skilled contribution of hackers, Lets see, how many things are dependent on either DSPs or software code... most forms of transportation in the last 5 years, Every power system in the U.S.A, most factories, any form of advanced medicine, hmm pretty much everything high tech. That is why it amused me to read this. Ohh and if you are wondering about hackers personalities, for the most part they are intelligent, productive, people who could be a Doctor, Lawyer, Judge, Politician, etc anon and so on. Well hmm strike politician from the list I don't trust them as far as I can throw them, unlike another hacker who I would trust enough to at least turn my back on without being stabed.

	HAHAHA (1.00 / 1) (#389)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:21:15 AM PST

	The funniest part was if Linux is installed or if Windows is corrupted then the computer is broken! The only reason I laugh is because as a tech I see this happen in real life every day. Someone comes in and tells me they need a new hard drive. I'm asking them why and this 30 year old proceeds to tell me that his next door neighbor's 12 year old tried to fix the problem but then finally told him that he needed a new hard drive. I don't know whether to cry or laugh.

	this is the dumbest thing ever (0.50 / 2) (#390)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:24:40 AM PST

	I don't know which is a deeper pit, your ignorance or your stupidity.

	Plonker (0.50 / 2) (#391)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:27:07 AM PST

	a)Ur obviously a yank b)Ur probably Southern c)Ur very "patriotic" to the point of blindness, saying AMD is inferior to intel is like saying american coffee tastes better than colombian blue. N.B.//This is written by a British person, I have nothing against Americans as a rule, but if they're so stupid it's unbelievable, I cant stand it. At least stupid British ppl have the common sense to shut up. Lunix a hacker program? Give me a break, it's an operating system that most dedicated Internet servers use, and is designed a lot better than MSWindows, but has less industry support, and therfore more of a niche market. and a dedicated internet server, every1 uses them, not just "hackers" U fool.

	Get Involved!!! (0.50 / 2) (#394)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:31:23 AM PST

	Not to be rude but if you would have tried to spend time with your son instead of substituting your time for a computer you probably would not have had this problem. It is people like you who blame society for the wrong doing of children. When it is actually the family life they are being raised in. If you would have only been INVOLVED with you kids you could have seen this and stopped it. Do not blame companies for what they sell. Blame yourself for not being involved. Check your resources buddy Intel chips and phone lines are the #1 one choices for hackers. Intel due to compatibility and phone lines due to their slow nature are harder to detect. Besides the best hackers still use AOL as their ISP because it is the easiest one to hide in.

	You people have got to be kidding.... (none / 0) (#395)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:32:20 AM PST

	Must have a 10 year old coming up with these "reports". Or it a rediculous effort to twist every story that comes down the line.. You reference to AMD as being an "inferior knock off chiP"..OK, sure, then why does it outperform Intels products at the same clock speeds?...You Idiots..um, excuse me..there are no "security features" in the chips... I cant stop laughing at the sheer amount of the crap in the rest of this article.....Its too funny to even comment on anymore...Its all crap....Why do you waste bandwidth on CRAP like this???...to collect email addresses from poor saps who post it, then spam them?....You guys are a waste of time....

	Bogus Site (0.50 / 2) (#397)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:35:30 AM PST

	This guy must be on crack, that artical is completely false, AMD is not a Hacker chip, but it does out perform the INTEL chipset, Quake is not virtual reality, and just because you spend alot of time on the PC doesn't make you a hacker, a gamer most likely, but this guy needs to get his shit straight, he is the Jim Baker of hacking info

	Water anb Bread as well... (0.50 / 2) (#398)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:35:50 AM PST

	I figured since he missed it in his article I'd mention that studies show if children consume large quantities of Water and Bread they can become hackers as well... I figured with the amazing amount of thought that went into that article I should complete it with more amazingly ridiculous, ZERO research, ZERO logic ideas. Keep up the good work, goddamn this web site sucks. [] * []

	Any proof to back up your IDIOTIC statements? (0.50 / 2) (#401)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:47:44 AM PST

	I laughed pretty damn hard, especially reading the part about it not being possible to remove Linux without damaging a portion of your hard drive? Where the heck do you hear this shit? I also found it funny where you claimed the Linux was based on Xenix. Just like everything else, everything Microsoft thinks of is copied off of someone else. Microsoft are a bunch of tools, and it is sad that they are mainstream. But where is your proof that everyone who uses Linux is a hacker. Maybe they just have more intelligence than you to use a REAL operating system. Last time I checked, AMD Manufactured most of their processors in Texas and Dresden, Germany. Since when was Germany a third world country with sweatshops. I would much rather buy a BMW than a Chevy. This is the comparison you are making. And HELL you can get that BMW (AMD) for cheaper than that chevy (intel). Are you retarded? Tell me what these "security" features that have been removed are? And you seriously have to be kidding about AOL. It is SLOW, you get busy signals trying to connect. It is for RETARDS. Most people already realize this and only the idiots are listening to your incoherent babbling and AOLs stupid commercials. In fact, AOL is a magnet for hackers. Ive heard Hackers take advantage of AOLs free offeres to gain access to the net without being traced back to their own internet service provider. How would you like your son and daughter being on a service as insecure as AOL infiltrated by a bunch of 'unruly hackers' as you would put it. You sir, need help.

	This is the most ignorant thing I've ever read! (0.50 / 2) (#404)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 08:09:38 AM PST

	People have to much time on their hands if they're writing crap like this.

	AMD is a publicly traded company (0.50 / 2) (#406)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 08:39:27 AM PST

	How are they third world? You do realize that AMD is FASTER THAN Intel, don't you? http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/tutorials/2427/5/ If you're so smart, you should read that article to see how an AMD 1.54Ghz can be faster than an Intel 1.9Ghz computer. AMD could sue you for libel, as you've presented false information in a factual manner. Please respond Adequacy.org, I want to know what you have to say about this.

	ROFLMAO!!!!! (0.50 / 2) (#407)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 08:40:55 AM PST

	hahaha what a piece of shit!!! AOL suxx0rs we all know that Xcept for the AOL geeks.. besides AOl is full of pr0n.. :) Linux rules... hehe this has to be the biggest joke ever probably started by an AOL employee getting paid xtra to get people on AOL.. Unix is the real OS... and LInux comes next... and Quake 0wnz too... I must be really nutz then cause I use the puter for about 7hrs a day... hehehe and thats after 8hrrs of work and school... what a 1337 HaXX0r I must be... bye...

	God, how funny! (0.50 / 2) (#408)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 08:53:27 AM PST

	I still can't get over the fact that he was serious. Bashing on "Lunix"(Linux) and AMD with those crazy claims. Dumb people suck. I feel sorry for his kids. I bet they are "church going" folk. They seem to do the most damage to their kids in the name of God and good upbringing. Hey Dude, the earth is round! I can't wait to read that he has found porn on his son's computer!

	What!!??!!! Thats just plain stupid! (0.50 / 2) (#409)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:06:43 AM PST

	People that play quake, quake 2, or quake III arena, are not all hackers! that is a stupid unreasonable, unrational statment! Quake (copyright id Software) is a fun game, so what its a little on the racey side (BTW: has your son seen any vietnam war movies :P) (hey i bet that d00d dont even know what BTW means :O)... neways as for the faster vid card more RAM and a faster processer (the AMD Athalon is one the best for 3D games) and other hardware upgrades, maybe he just wants to play quake better than what a compaq can run (Dell and aleinware make the best gamers)...okay as for you Mr. parinoid dont blame quake, dont blame bill gates, dont blame the ruskies, and don't blame your son untill he mentions something abot the FCC making a house call. -MajorDick

	What a maroon! (0.50 / 2) (#411)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:12:29 AM PST

	It is really sad that their are people so freaking ignorant. And what makes it worse is that this one is attempting to spread his ignorance to others under the guise of protecting our children. You stupid comments about the hacker friendly AMD which is only sold through internet sites from 3rd-world countries is laughable. All you have to do is walk into a computer store to see that you are full of crap. Even major brand name computers use AMD processors. And that nugget of ignorance is only the tip of the iceberg. Some how I doubt your son was even doing and "hacking" since you seem to define it as anything short of sitting there like a dumbass in front of the computer wondering what evils are going on inside the case. I feel sorry that your children have to live with such a fearful ignorant father.

	Wow alot of negitive comments!!! (0.50 / 2) (#413)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:19:55 AM PST

	Okay i'm not going to speend anymore time on the stupid web site... i just have to say, after seeing the 300+ comments for that artical, okay i'm gona say it... ready... HAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!! WOW, that guy should spend more time thinking than typing.... I mean he wrote that long of senceless artical just to be put down so very many times its just plain funny (BTW: that artical made headline on Planetquake.com)...okay im outa here, think i'll load up q3a and do some fragging!!!! - - MajorDick

	Intel Support Hackers ! ! and Terrorism ? ? ? (0.50 / 2) (#414)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:21:30 AM PST

	Intel the Monopolistic Giant threats Asian and Muslim companies as routine practice. Intel India is engaged in a monopolistic push "Intel is engaged in a monopolistic push, with resellers being threatened with cancellation of their preferential discounts and benefits if they stock either AMD or Via CPUs." Intel uses Local Police to Terrorize "Intel representatives demanded that resellers from all over India to remove all VIA C3 processor marketing collateral, including retail display boxes, posters, brochures, and gift items, from their stores, or face expulsion from the company's GID (Genuine Intel Dealer) program and thus exclusion from its associated benefits." Taipei balloon incident gets real nasty "Over the past few weeks we have received a growing number of reports from resellers from all over India, but especially the Delhi region, saying that they have been asked by Intel representatives to remove all VIA C3 processor marketing collateral, including retail display boxes, posters, brochures, and gift items, from their stores, or face expulsion from the company's GID (Genuine Intel Dealer) program and thus exclusion from its associated benefits." Brown confirmed allegations made by a Via distributor. "A member of the VIA marketing team was present at the incident that took place at Nehru Place in New Delhi, in which the police were requested to close down a stand that we had set up to distribute free Coca Cola to reseller delivery staff wearing VIA C3 processor T shirts as part of a promotional program. Like the balloon incident at Computex Taipei this year, this story is too surreal for anyone to make up." Pentium III PSN help Hackers Intel Spying ? Intel Still Spying ?? "A privacy firm has posted a demonstration of how malicious code can steal a user's Pentium III serial number without the user's knowledge, and its demonstration program is now being targeted by Intel and Symantec." Intel Settle to avoid Monolopy Suit Intel Settles to avoid Monolopy Suit Intel Weasel out of Lawsuit in Settlement to Avoid being Declare Monopoly and Intel is Anti-American Small Business "the FTC accused Intel of depriving its smaller customers of one of their chief assets--intellectual property rights that could be used as leverage when negotiating with Intel. Intel was able to take such action by threatening to withhold technical information customers needed to build their products unless they entered into royalty-free cross-licenses, the FTC alleged. " China Restrict Intel Pentium III do to Security Concern and Intel Hackable Processor "Chinese Government Restricts Sale of Pentium III because of Security Concerns. Chinese government officials have restricted the sale and distribution of Pentium III microprocessors out of concern for national security. The Chinese government has ordered domestic manufacturers to turn off the PSN, and has ordered government agencies not to connect Pentium IIIs to the Internet" Restriction on Pentium III do to PSN enabling Computers to be Hacked Intel still being a Weasel. "Zero-Knowledge Systems Finds Another Hole in Intel PSN Patch. After Intel asked Symantec to create software that dealt with the ZKS hack, ZKS claims that the PSN can still be exposed without resetting the computer. Some of Intel's Pentium II and Celeron processors have Processor Serial Number switched on. Intel admitted March 10 that some Pentium II chips contain the Pentium Serial Number, not just Pentium IIIs as previously announced. Certain mobile Pentium IIs with on-board cache are also badged under Intel's Celeron label." Intel Goal Spy on Americans and Competators "Privacy and consumer rights groups are up in arms over the new feature, which they say can provide an easy way for unscrupulous marketers and hackers to track users based on their surfing habits. Some groups have called for a boycott of Intel, while others, including the Center for Democracy and Technology, the ACLU, and the Electronic Privacy Information Center, are meeting with the FTC to pursue an investigation into the serial code." Truth can not be hidden by falsehood This is only to inform the readers of what is really happen and to correct any misconceptions of AMD. AMD is an American company that focuses on what Americans want for products. While Intel focus on trying to manipulates and threatens Americans and Non-Americans if the do not buy their products. Also to inform about the inadequacy of the information quoted 3. Has your child asked for new hardware? Computer hackers are often limited by conventional computer hardware. They may request "faster" video cards, and larger hard drives, or even more memory. If your son starts requesting these devices, it is possible that he has a legitimate need. You can best ensure that you are buying legal, trustworthy hardware by only buying replacement parts from your computer's manufacturer. If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well. AMD is an american company that produces the most advance microprocess in the world. Why does it takes a Intel processor that needs to be overclocked by 500Mhz+ in order to compete on a performace level of AMD. AMD supports educating American People with honesty and truth while Intel relies on Americans being dumb morons. If the processor was the center of the digital world as Intel quotes than why do you need a video card, or memory, or hard drive in you computer. Another not Linux is not an hacker os. Linux is a developer OS that allows software developers to design the Operating System to meet their needs. Linux allow Companies to build more security and stop real hackers from hacking in to crucial systems. Windows is really the hackers paradise. Microsoft Windows allow people to easily learn how to hack becuase ActiveX, Visual Basic Script, and Microsoft Macros allow users to get to personal information. These tools are mostly built into Windows. Microsoft is on a weekly basis if not bi-weekly have security patches updates. One reason is Microsoft goal is to be able to gather info on customers in order to beat competators in selling markets. I have had windows 95 and 98 crash hard and the only way to fix was to reformat drive and load according to windows experts. I have loaded linux on several computers not a problem. I run linux and windows on same hard drive not problem. Linux more friendlier to install than windows. Windows have a tendency to hammer hard drives or sound cards. Linux has never crashed on loading or after running on computers. Windows will crash on computers with built in sound cards. Usally have to disable sound card before installing windows. Microsoft is right now defing the government because Microsoft thinks they are more powerful than the government and will crush any american that stands in their way for owning a monopoly. I know most people will argee this veiw since most people are either living an illusion or brainwatched by Intel/Micorsoft. I know that this my get taken down by Intel or Microsoft threatening site monitor or Monitor does not like the truth. My belief is that anyone you flames or takes down this truth about Intel lives in a illusion and america is doomed to fall. I hope that the truth will be heard and there may be hope for America. A concern American who grow up with Computers and family of Computers Users and Programmers. A concern American who has a degree in Electrical Engineering Specialized in Microprocessor Architecture and a degree in Software Engineering.

	Huh hih heh! (none / 0) (#415)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:23:59 AM PST

	Ok.. the article is funny.. but even funnier are the comments of people who actually think anything in article is meant sirious. That should be clear to anyone even if he read only first paragraph. (Teen parties without alcohol? lol?) If any parent believes in this utopia.. let me know, I'll laugh some more...

	ROFLMAO (0.50 / 2) (#416)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:25:33 AM PST

	oh my fucking god, what a retard you really are...

	Interesting (0.50 / 2) (#417)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:31:28 AM PST

	This guy obviously has no idea what he is talking about, 1. hackers hack with a mac, haven't you ever seen the movie Hackers? 2. We can hack your BLT drive with ease, because your security guard told me the telephone number, which i have done before. See, don't fuck with us, or we'll get you. I am a true hacker, your son was not, no hackers use comet cursor, and the only flash i do is in front of your mom. l8r moron.

	ROFLMFAO (0.50 / 2) (#418)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:32:42 AM PST

	you fcking fools, for a start that was mainly bullshit, ie: Perl is a type of computer programming Quake 1, 2, and 3 and all other games which are similar, are NOT meeting places for fcking hackers, just gamers who like killing games to release anger, and if there are any hackers they must only do it for some kind of fun anyway linux is actually an operating system used by more advanced users and also,<b> IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MUCH TIME YOU SPEND ON THE COMPUTER </b> on that note, amd are a good choice in processors, new graphics cards are needed in order to speed up gaming, as is a new ISP, or even broadband, just to improve playability on games and on a final note, you must all be very stupid, very narrow minded people, who should perhaps try to understand that perhaps, the graphics

	this article is stupid (0.50 / 2) (#419)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:34:09 AM PST

	this article is the biggest load of crap i have ever had to lay my eyes on, using an AMD proccessor means your a hacker? then half the computer enthusiasts out there are hackers, this guy has obliviously no knowledge of computers whatso ever!! i hope that no one ever reads this article agian and if i ever met this guy id prob have to remove his computer from him for being such a moron.

	THIS MAN´S CRAZY!!!!!!!!!AND IDIOT TOO!!!!!!!!! (0.50 / 2) (#421)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:41:10 AM PST

	When I first read this,I thought it was a joke,this was imposible to be real.I thought men were more intelligent than other animals,but this one is sillier than a stone. The way he talks about AMD is fucking idiot.AMD is American and also in my opinion the best microprocesors maker in the world.Linux is the best operating system and not the crap that windows is. I could comment this article for a long time,but I think is not worth to do that.I will instead write my conclusion. I don´t know what adequacy.org is about, but it shouldn´t be allowed to promote this kind of intolerance,misinformation.This man is a dictator,intolerant,worse than a nazi and the stupidest person in the world. Sorry if my english is not good enough to express what I think.I´m from Spain(is in Europe,for people like this man who doesn´t know the world where they live) and my English is not perfect

	Spain? (none / 0) (#6297)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 04:53:12 AM PST

	Don't you have a sense of humour in Spain then?

	I think you should Look at it this way.... (0.50 / 2) (#422)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:46:51 AM PST

	To start off, Quake is a game, it used only for fun with friends over something we like to call the "internet"....Gaming and Hacking Is VERY diffrent. The Last thing A hacker will ask for is a new "videocard" or a processer from "amd", that is GAMING hardware. Gaming is like playing "freeze tag" in 3d with your friends, this doesn't represent any hacking skillz. Linux Is simply an alternate operating system to windows, You don't know it but the vast majority of web servers(the things you dial up to) run linux, It is far more streamlined then the microsoft operating systems in this application. Hacking Is the modifycation of software to serve an alternate application, such as disabling the time limit on demo software. Cracking Is the long process of finding passwords, breaking security systems and forging computer I.D. While threatening these may seem, Only A small amount of these hackers, and crackers, actually do any harm to anything. Most of the fellas I know sit in there basement for hours and hours trying to break there own security. Like some people get their kicks out of word descrambling puzzles. If you do not wish your children to get into this kind of activity, you need to look for the actuall Tools that the use. Like Nukers, tracers, Advanced hex-editers, brute forcers, Decypher programs, and virus sourse code. Oh and the new isp thing.....AoL Is not a well traveled isp due to it's slow nature, Privacy Violations( I can moniter your internet traffic, and email from Aol Sitting here Right now) And the Nasty software package. The nicer internet service will be from High band, (dsl or Cable) This is for GAMING really, because It makes your preformence online much faster, and therefor more competive. Games are good, Hacking is only bad when an unethical "NOOB" Finds some toolz

	The sky is falling the sky is falling! (0.50 / 2) (#423)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:47:51 AM PST

	Please, stop posting FUD for Microsoft. I am offended that you can't even spell LINUX correctly. Frankly, I think you work for Microsoft and you are simply trying to scare parents out of letting children use the ONLY free OS out there. If you don't know what you are talking about - the keep your mouth shut. Go back to censoring your childrens' CD collection and make sure they grow up to be abusive jocks (who drink and smoke when you and the coach aren't looking by the way) - but stay away from Linux.

	I don't worry (0.50 / 2) (#424)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 09:49:05 AM PST

	There's two solutions: -the original posters was joking, and then must be rolling on the floor laughing -if it was an american, it is one of those that make think foreign people (I not american) that american are stupid (maybe watching too much television) This post make me laugh, and I don't think that hackers have to worry if everybody think the same, but all the kids that want to learn more about computer (and earning more money later by working in a big compagny, maybe earning more that this person? =) have to worry. Just for information, Quake is history, they all play Counter Strike (oh my god! talibans!!, RoFL), plus you don't speak into these kind of game, this is not a forum or a chat room, you read the newspaper sometimes... To conclude it makes me proud not being american (since I think this person is american), no offense for the other. But now I know why the death penalty still exist...

	I see a few of your points (0.50 / 2) (#437)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 10:53:38 AM PST

	about hacking and keeping locks on you guns. However, perhaps you should take your son in for counseling. His for getting him to know that hacking is illegal and wrong and for you and you paranoia. Linux is a legitimate alternative for Windows, changing how you dress is not a sign of a hacker, becoming "argumentative" is also not a sign of a hacker (its a sign of a teenager who's trying to expand his/her independance), failing in school is more of a problem with making new friends who takes-up more of his/her time (usually its a drug-related problem or a bully at school who just won't leave your child alone), Quake is not the hacker-maker you say it is, wanting new hardware is common (if you have a crappy computer then you should expect your children to complain), computers are addictive (spending more time on one is not a sign of a hacker. I am using mine more and more often and I've never even tried to hack anything), new programs are released everyday (get used to it), and <b>wanting to change ISP's is due to getting himself/herself banned from game servers due to his/her cheating or being an ass while playing(don't make the change, make him/her suffer for messing-up everyone's game by being the aforementioned "ass").</b> That is all.

	hackers????? (0.50 / 2) (#438)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 10:53:55 AM PST